IA practice is dead in Big4s, go for industry...

Consultant

Big 4 or industry? It's like choosing between a rock and a hard place. Big 4, you'll be a glorified clerk. Industry, a corporate puppet. "Stable job market" in Big 4? More like stable exploitation. And industry roles, they're just glorified babysitting jobs. So, what's your poison? Big 4's overwork or industry's monotony? "Zindagi bhar ka sauda hai, ye maut ka rasta" - choose wisely. Now, tell me, have you considered entrepreneurship?

No I have not considered entrepreneurship. But rather than starting something on my own fully, I would prefer to start at a firm, get to learn more and then devote my time to build that enterprise...not sure if this is a good approach. But yeah...

Software Engineer

Hi all. I am in a slight dilemma if I should move to an industry or move to a similar department in an audit firm/Big 4 as such.  What would be your opinion?

Future in Big 4 for internal audit

Future in Big 4 for internal audit- Grapevine

I work with one of the big 4s in audit department I am not really sure if there's an advantage to stay in big 4 audit department without CA or ACCA qualification.
Is there any scope of growth in any of the big 4's, or shall i change my career path?

Hey everyone,

Internal Audit

I am a new associate. All tasks assigned to me do not require any skills or a college degree. I feel like going through this will stagnate my skills.

Every-time I show initiative, I do not succeed at making my team assign me more of the challenging tasks.

Should I be more patient or look for another career or other big 4? I feel like a glorified admin assistant in my current audit role. Maybe even admins do more challenging work.

I’m in Audit and I’m not being challenged. Is it too early or is this always going to be like this in Big 4?

Analyst

I am currently working as a Senior Auditor in a Big4 with 5 years experience in statutory audit.
I am not a CA, so either I have to complete CPA to become a manager else I have to be in the same designation.
I am looking for an option to switch job.
Any suggestions what role could I be exploring?

Job Options

External Audit

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Hi,

Any internal or ex-internal auditors here ? Good day y'all. If I may ask, How was your career trajectory? How much are you earning now after your experience?

If you have moved or planning to move to any different domain, what is your rationale behind it ?

Sorry in advance, if my questions are seeming more like an audit enquiry😅😅

Career growth advice - Internal Auditors

Business Associate

Hi i have been offered a corporate strategy role in a us based company in India. currently i work in Investment Banking profile at a big 4. Can anyone please help me suggesting whether it’s worth taking it or what are the prospects of strategy roles in India.

Corporate strategy role advice

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Hello everyone! I'm a Chartered Accountant from India, boasting 5 years of experience in finance. My goal is to secure opportunities in Europe, particularly the Netherlands. Unfortunately, despite applying to over 300 companies in the last two months, I haven't received any interview calls. I realize that securing a job from India can be challenging.

So, my inquiry is, which specific finance area should I concentrate on and further study to facilitate my transition to the Netherlands?

Thank you, everyone!

Looking for Opportunities in Europe

Business Analyst

Hi guys. I am working in a front end IB role with KPMG. 
There is a lot of movement going on here among BIG4s in terms of people poaching. One of the other Big 4 is poaching our 10-15 partners and ~130 professionals. My team partner has communicated to us that he has made his decision to move. Now he is having a one-on-one conversation with all of us regarding the terms and conditions.

My questions to all of you is:
1. What options do I have?
2. What monetary benefits can I expect and how much should I ask for?
3. If I say no to moving, can KPMG ask me to leave the job since my team has left?

Please advise.

Deloitte is recruiting 15 partners and around 130-150 professionals from KPMG's deal advisory team, in one of the biggest movements among the Big Four accounting firms. Former KPMG executives Rohit Berry, Vivek Gupta are also joining Deloitte. KPMG is making efforts to retain the departing talent. 

Deloitte to recruit KPMG Partners as Deal Street heats up: Report

Big 4 IB wars. What should I do?

Investment Associate

Any big 4 hiring for statutory audit role for CA with 3 plus years of experience?

Any big 4 hiring-Audit

Senior Associate

Hey guys,
I thought of shifting from Internal Audit to Investment Banking, currently am working in Deloitte in Internal Audit Domain as Senior Risk Analyst.

Reasons for Change in Carrer Path
1. Am seeing life of my seniors who are in the highest position, they have traveling all the time there is no way of personal time for those floks
2. Am aslo a recently qualified CMA and I don't think the future is bright for CMA's in Internal Audit.
3. Mostly importantly what am getting in this job is very less salary
4. Even now am very far fron Family and only god knows about my future if am still in Internal Audit.
5. Main problem is I have seen people (Client's employees) who are CA qualified with experience in Internal Audit are spending their most of the time in Vouching.

Why I want to go to IB?
1. Pay is way more greater
2. No need to do all the repeated work
3. No particular certification / Profesional degree is compulsory
4. No need to travel more.


This are my reasons could you guys please help out with your opinions. It would be so helpful.

Internal Audit			to Investment Banking

Why do so many people work in the Big 4 given that you have to work so many hours and your work life balance doesn’t exist.

Is having a Big 4 on your CV really worth all of that hassle and not having a life in your 20s? 

What about you guys? What are your personal reasons for staying with the big 4?

Why do you work in the Big 4? [Deloitte, EY, PwC, KPMG]

Product Manager

I've been working as a Software developer with a total of 2.5 years of exp in an MNC.  I want to explore other areas like consulting. Can y'all suggest how I can get started and would I be a fool to try applying to the Big4?

Also let me know if the whole shebang about consultants getting to travel more true or it depends on other factors??

Consulting opportunities for people coming from software background

Software Developer

I wanna move out of my firm due to less growth prospects. I want to break into consulting, front end. What kind of Consultant roles I'm expecting in the Profit Centers of Big4 in the marketing sales domain?

Must have skills to move from Cost Centers to the Profit Centers of Big4

Welcome to Personal Finance's Private Community

Does anyone know if KPMG India's corporate finance and investment banking division has any vacancies for experienced associates (Exp. 0.5-1 year)? I know that they are hiring for Senior associates (Exp. 2-4 years) but don't know about associate level.

Kindly help.

KPMG corporate finance and investment banking

Investment Banking Associate

1. You’re not in Big 4 for the money early in your career. Your 20s should be spent laying the foundations of your career in your late 20s to early 40s.

2. Money will never be fantastic compared to industry. People aren’t paying Big 4s for expertise, they’re paying for temporary / agile resource allocation or because something requires external parties (e.g., external audit, independent reviews etc.).

3. You can absolutely succeed outside the Big 4, but YMMV. For every industry success story, there’s always someone who worked at a great company but got stuck playing musical chairs, screwed by a restructure, thrown under terrible leadership or just lacked that sweet serendipity that everyone needs to score that next promotion. The Big 4 by comparison provided structured training and career progression. The price you pay for this is money and work life balance.

4. Recruiters love ex big 4 hires just like why they love CAs. It’s a reliable stamp on someone’s CV to shows that someone’s gone through an appropriate level of professional training and professional experiences. For example when hiring an experienced senior / manager I’d be comfortable that they’d have experience coaching new staff, people managing, advising senior leaders or even navigating complex political environments.

5. Networking and its benefits are never felt immediately. The people who realise this too late are always the ones who get caught with their pants down in the middle of job interviews or complex matters at work. They often have no friends, peers or ex colleagues to turn to for advice or just as a general sounding board. You’ll realise just how many people you know in various companies/roles once you leave the Big 4.

Lessons from my Big 4 manager

Big 4 Vs Accenture which will be better?

Project Manager

It would be easy to find out who I am if I say anything more but I have worked in cross-collaborative roles across my careers spanning multiple decades in Big4s. I have led several projects for Govt of India and Public Sector Organizations. Personally I have worked in multidisciplinary fields mostly in IT and Databases. I have recently worked in Solution designing and Enterprise Architecture for many large orgs. Most of this is Digital strategy for many offline first businesses.

Ask me Anything!

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Consulting Associate

Hi I am CA who is working in big 4 offshore practice in audit division. I want to move away from audit in a more diverse role. Is it possible to move from audit after 3 years at a decent increase in package if i am willing to learn new skills.

Future in Big 4 for internal audit

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