Add (https://nohello.net/en/) to your slack/teams status, if someone messages “Hey” after seeing this, they deserve to be fired.

Growth And Strategy

Market Research

Backend Engineer

That's the business case for the reply prompts.   
  
 Just select one and move on.

Sales Manager

Oh god I wish I could ignore it and move on 
  
 Equally irritating, when you send a list of 6 points, 3 of them are action tasks and 2 of them are questions and all you get back is "Hello"

Lawyer

Founder

Software Engineer

I just fucking hate this. Why can’t people write what is the em next thing they wanna talk about ? Formal or informal I don’t care . But likho bhai kya chahte ho conversation mai idiots

Very true. I hate this too. Surprisingly all my wife's friends and sisters do this and we had a fight when I told her my opinion. I studied about this behaviour and realised that people don't want to start the conversation with the work and they want to start the conversation informally. But at the same time they don't know what more to say other than hi. 🤦

Product Manager

Just tell me what you want first so I can decide if I want to respond to you?

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Hate it when people do this...

Hate it when people do this...- Grapevine

I can’t be be the only one, but I am surrounded by multiple people that just do not believe in async communication. They first send a “hi”, wait for me to acknowledge and then only proceed to tell me what they want. Even if it is something ridiculous like “What is the URL to access this portal?”. 

I generally am very quick with messages and from the last few months, this “hi” business is ticking me off. I decided to do some social experiment and delayed my responses to hi. 

If someone just sends me a “hi”, I schedule a “hi” to 3 hours from then. Result? People would rather sit on blockers than tell me what they want. 

I then tried a decreasing backoff. If you texted me a “hi” once, I’d respond in 3 hours. Repeat it a second time, I’d respond in 4 hours. 5 hours the third time, 6 hours the fourth and so on. 

Results? People would still rather I acknowledge their “hi” than tell me what they want.  

Some anecdotes of how “efficient” communication is:

1. A guy wanted access to a portal that I managed. He pinged me a “hi” every morning for 7 straight days before actually asking me what he wants. 
2. Another person wanted to understand git commands that can be used to solve merge conflicts. But not before pinging “hi” for 4 days, then just pulling me into a call with their manager and their manager pinging me a “hi” when I declined the call. 
3. Another person wanted an update on a ticket I closed 2 years ago. All he wanted was a change request number, which he could find using control + F on the Jira portal. He chose to send “hi”s to multiple team mates of mine when I didn’t respond. 

Ultimately, I started telling people to not just ping and disappear and that they can reach out to me. But I guess old habits die hard and I still receive multiple “hi”s. 

Merko unkin”hi” lag gayi. 

Also, before you scream at me for ranting about such a piddi problem. https://nohello.net/en/ is the thing.

Folks that ping “hi” and disappear

Let me go- 
Coworker who used to lie a lot and spread rumours. Like they'll make up a story in their head, and start telling random things. Once she pinged everyone saying that I got engaged, and I suddenly started receiving texts in company groups 🤷🏾

What are some of the worst habits of your coworker?

Nothing major, but this bothers me a lot! 
 "Hi" 
 Just say what you want to say instead of waiting for me to reply

Frontend Engineer

Software Developer

I have a job interview coming up and want to get everything right this time. Would appreciate any suggestions.  I usually start by telling where I've done my college from and then talk about the work I've done at my current firm. Anything more that I should add?

What do you say when interviewer asks "Tell me about yourself"

Business Analyst

What to tell recruiters if they ask why are you still applying while having an offer in hand?

Welcome to Indian Startups's Private Community

Have you observed this trend of getting scammed? 

Early career professionals ➡️ Online Courses
Colllege Kids ➡️ FAANG/MAANG didi/bhaiyya
School Kids ➡️ JEE cram schools

Here’s why career advice is generally bad.

1. Those who share career advice online are generally out there trying to shill you paid courses. They tell you what you want to hear so you pay up.

2. Any career advice that works will lose its edge over time. Because it becomes widely adopted, and that’s precisely because it works. 

Example:
If everyone is building a portfolio website then it becomes the defacto standard. I’m not saying that don’t build a portfolio website. 

What I’m saying is, that it becomes less effective over time because you building one is not a clear differentiator.

Imagine sending a letter by post to an early stage company’s founder where you want to work, he might be more willing to schedule a call with you because you chose an approach that they might not have experienced first hand ever. 

Also, I’m not saying that the above said approach will work, since it’s unproven you’ll have to experiment and evaluate if it works.

Maybe a good heuristic is to “do what it takes to stand out” and that means being creative with how you navigate work life. 

3. Those giving advice generally impose their thought model onto you. They make assumptions basis what they think is right.

This is not a bad thing but it does not account for your specific constraints.

Finally, if you do want to ask for advice.
1. Ask “How” questions to those not much older than you, since they are executing in the trenches.
2. Ask “Why” questions to much older folks, you try to get closer to their first principles, which is the base level truth that cannot be divided further. 

Avoid asking “What” questions to anyone, generally it’s good to think them through yourself.

[Thread] Why Career Advice is generally bullsh*t?

As much as we blame tele callers or sales people from XYZ companies for constantly calling us , Upon close observation I’ve started to notice that it’s not 100% their fault. It’s often the fault of the people who get the calls. They fill up forms either on purpose and by accident and then they don’t answer said calls either to inform the person on the other end that they are no longer interested. Instead they act all high and pricey thinking they’re better than the ones calling them. Some people just do it as a way to blow steam as I’ve noticed. They just want someone to abuse and who better than a poor tele caller. 

People should wake up and understand that when you fill a form with your details or give your information somewhere to have the courtesy to either :

1) Inform them it was a mistake or they’re no longer interested.
2) Schedule an alternate date and time. 
3) If they’re genuinely interested to actually listen to them rather than ask them to send it via mail as even their KRA’s of the include these dials or talk times. 

Nobody wakes up excited thinking they get to call 1000 uninterested people who might abuse them. It’s their job so treat them with the same dignity they treat you. 

No I am not talking about cold calling but about calls that you get after you fill out your information and know you would be getting a call regarding the same.

We are the problem ‼️

Assistant Manager

You know those type of people? The ones who believe they know everything, everyone else is beneath them, but in reality are extremely stupid?

The ones who will never admit they are wrong even if you show them why? The ones who will try to demean you at every step of the way cause it gives them pleasure? The ones who you just want to punch as soon as you see them in office?

Yeah, I know you’re thinking about atleast one person while reading this. My question is what has your strategy been in dealing with these people? 

So far in my journey, I haven’t faced any sadistic manager, so that has been great, but the people, my god, some of the tech guys in my teams have been absolutely the most frustrating human beings I’ve encountered.

Ofcourse the first thing to do is to take a step back and reevaluate whether if it is you who has been the actual asshole all along, but after that, if you are still convinced that the other person is nothing but the living embodiment of satan, how do you guys go about dealing with them?

How do you guys deal with annoying assholes at work

Welcome to Software Engineers's Private Community

How do you guys deal with toxic people in tech, especially when they are your seniors or you work with them everyday?
We are a small team and the senior I have is an extremely shit person. We decide something while design discussions, and product discussion but he changes his mind and asks to completely revamp the solution after it's implemented. Extremely close-minded to new or different ideas or different ways of doing things. Also frequently insults people on the call.

I know one solution is to leave the company but that can't always be the case and when the team is small, sometimes these people become unavoidable. So looking for ideas on how other people deal with toxic peers/seniors in their workplace.

Dealing with shit/toxic people in tech

How frequently do you guys just approach a girl at random? On the streets, in bars, at gyms, etc. 

P.S. If you have any communication starters, please share.

Approach a girl

format:

1. If your company is hiring, let us know if you can provide a referral or can help somehow. Be ready with a fake/temporary Email Id to accept applications/resume, if you want to.

2. If you know any other company hiring:
Would be better if you could provide the link to the job or company or its career page, it's ok if you only want to share the name.

3. If you know a stealth or very small startup hiring right now, either share someone's LinkedIn/Twitter profile whom we can reach out to or ask to DM. 

4. If you have recently interviewed at a company, try to share a bit about their expectations and interview experience.

5. Recruiters, you know better than most of us, please help, ok ?

Wherever possible, try to mention the tech stack and years of experience expected.

The idea is to not just give a name, provide as much information you can to keep the thread clean and 'to the point'


Happy Hunting/Helping 😃


PS: (not mandatory) anyone who gets a job using this thread needs to give a treat to the person who helped them and post their interview experience on GV 😉

[Who Is Hiring] [May 🧵]

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Senior Software Engineer

Why is it that some men show too much interest in you for initial few weeks, like asking for ig and then ig messages. Seeing your stories just about the instant you post it. They tell you about their last break up they can't get over with but still tell you that falling in love is the most beautiful part of life and talk about wanting to settle down - until the time you show interests and hola! They suddenly change their verdicts - suddenly they're no more interested. Suddenly they get busy and don't respond to your messages anymore. 
My question to men, what do you seek from a woman when you are looking for some serious engagements. Whom should one trust with attachments?

Question to men

Data engineer

There's this coworker who comes off as extremely aggressive during discussions and individual interactions. This is causing a shift in entire team's environment in the wrong direction. Personally this is causing me to avoid getting into discussions with them. I'm looking for ways to deal with this person and keep the work environment peaceful.

Here are some of the observations about their behaviour:

1. Highly opinionated and treat others who have a different opinion as hostile. 

2. When someone else is trying to explain something which needs to be explained serially A -> B -> C, and they are interested in C, they get restless and start badgerring with questions about C while the other person is still on A.

3. In discussions, which require a deep understanding of the product, which they do not have yet, instead of admitting that they have doubts and asking questions, they try to act as if they understood it when clearly they didn't because their senior was present. For instance, they paid attention in the beginning and then got busy on their phone during the meeting and when asked if they understood, they just told the agenda of the meeting instead of what was discussed.

4. This is what tipped me off the edge. During a meeting which didn't involve their senior, they got easily frustrated when others were giving an opinion different from theirs and pointing out the issues with their opinion. After a couple of minutes, it turned into a heated argument and they started raising their voice and started making illogical sarcastic remarks. And after a bit of that they changed their tone into rude frustrated disinterest and rudely remarked "do whatever you want to do".

So far we have tried to use humor to deescalate the situation. But this is clearly not gonna work in the long run, and their behaviour is getting worse day by day. 

I am trying to avoid a confrontation with them because it is not my place and I don't want it to get ugly.

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