I pity the scammers more than the scammed. Like how do you even think of such a crap idea?

They still managed 35cr with that crap idea

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Israeli time machine hai saar, maza aa jayega.

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External Audit

Prefix anything with foreign named like American, British and new flavour in town Israeli and you are good to have hold over innocent yet idiotic population. I think we need to work more on our low...

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Prefix anything with foreign named like American, British and new flavour in town Israeli and you are good to have hold over innocent yet idiotic population.
I think we need to work more on our low self esteem else there is no way to get so easily impressed and duped by anything foreign sounding scheme.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/up-couple-dupes-elderly-people-of-rs-35-crore-promised-them-of-age-reversal-6712303

How easily scammers fool general Indian middle class.

How easily scammers fool general Indian middle class.- Grapevine

Recently saw this news: https://www.indiatoday.in/technology/news/story/pune-man-undergoes-full-medical-check-up-before-joining-date-ends-up-losing-rs-24-lakh-2461256-2023-11-10

In March 2023, a man received a call from someone claiming to be a recruitment executive for a global carmaker's India unit. 

They convinced him he was shortlisted for a senior position but asked for a fee of Rs 1,600 to register. 

The scammers kept asking for more money over five months, including Rs 28,000 for a uniform, Rs 80,000 for a check-up, and Rs 2.4 lakh as a salary advance. .

However, after paying around Rs 24 lakh in around 40 transactions, the man realized that he had been cheated
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How and why people fall for these? Also how they make over 40 transactions? 

Also a lot more people have fallen for scams than I initially thought. It's only when you tell them a story about other scams they tell their story.

Job Scam - how educated people fall for them?

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So finally, someone spoke about this fraudulent startup AstroTalk. How they operate and how they take advantage of gullible people, is completely explained in the video. These kinds of startups need to be busted on LinkedIn and other social media platforms so that no one calls prey for such cheap tactics. This is just another BYJUs in the making. The cofounder is an IIT IIM grad. Shows how greed can even pollute the minds of even highly educated people. Really don't understand how the VCs can be so fucking dumb, funding them with 165 Crores!! Shocking but it isn't surprising since the Indian Startup ecosystem is filled with such scam artists.

Scam called AstroTalk - BYJUs 2.0

Jab tak hum jaise log IIM/IITians ki G chaat te rahenge tab tak ye hume chutiya banate rahenge. 4 din baad tum chutiye sab bhool jaoge fir kisi naye IIT/IIM led startup ko linkedin par praise karoge jab tak wo bubble itna bada na ho jaye ki use criticise kar pao…fir kisi anonymous platform par aajakr “OMG SO FUCKING DISGUSTING” bold doge kyuki linkedin par to tumhari gaand thandi ho jati hai kisi ko criticise karte hue…aur ye cycle bas chalta rahega…so moral of the story is, tum hi log chutiye ho wo nahi.

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I’ve always had this question on why Indians are very stingy when it comes to paying money for premium products. I agree there are Indians especially in the young generation who aren’t shy from spending for quality products but the masses are still stuck in the bargaining or cheap mindset. 

When we look for cars the first thing we probably check is kitna mileage dega ?

When we look at a premium product we compare it to a copy or a product that does not offer the same quality or service that a premium product offers. 

What are the reasons to it and when or how can we come out of it. This is one of the reasons we have got the “slave / miser ” label outside our county and why we’ve got weak passports which make it difficult to take a vacation like citizens of other countries .

Why are Indians still stuck in the freebie or cheap mentality ?

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Assistant Manager

I will go first- sneaking in membership fees while making a purchase; urban company recently got some flak for it.

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Not an Anti India or Indian hating post but I work in sales and I’ve discovered that Indians act so entitled as if they’re some high and mighty royals who have transcended from heavens above when interacting with anyone who’s calling them after they themselves requesting for it. 

Half the times these dumb clowns can’t even articulate 2 sentences together in English and struggle to understand what you try and tell them but act like they know it all. 

We’ve got to clean up our act as customers and human beings before we make a bigger mockery of ourselves than what’s already out there. No wonder we’re categorised as the cheap hooligan crowd outside.

Indian customers act the most entitled when they’re worth the least

Me dumb clown, no string together sentence in English. You selling? Me customer? You want me lick your ass? Me not likely :(

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Okay, so this happened to me last year. I was approached by a college alumni (got my number from college alumni group) who told me he had a side business going on which was leading him to earn more money than his corporate job and that he was going to leave the corporate for his “business”.

I was initially not interested but he was insistent and also I was looking to explore some options (may be my naïveté) that I asked him more and so he setup a call with his senior to explain more about this “business”.

Now this senior gave all sorts of gyaan regarding how to reach financial independence and picking up on the general mindset of how to make more money. They asked to create a list of 10 things that I desired the most at the point of time which could be solved with more money. I complied thinking it was a good exercise (again, I was a big fool). Now I was connected with another senior who gave all sorts of gyaan regarding how I could make more money and lead to financial independence.

Please note, during all this time I was constantly asking what the business idea was and how it would be achieved but got no response on the details and only white washing regarding how I should be prepared to do anything to achieve my dreams.

Now, it was revealed that I would need to put in 5L as investment to get bigger returns. Since I did not have that money in handy, I was suggested to get a personal loan through their agents. Also not to inform this to parents because they won’t understand this stuff and get “worried”. Luckily I did went with their suggestion and informed my parent about it. Thinking it was a startup idea, I got the investment from my father through an OD in my name.

Now we get onto a call two days later, where they reveal the company QNet and makes me purchase 5L of stuff from their website and explained the business model which was to get other people from your knowing to buy products from this company and get commissions on the sale.

Continued……

Pyramid scheme scam

Bruh... what even?! It's a well known scam. I don't understand how you were ready to put in 5L of your money without going for a simple google search.  
  
 All these IIT/NIT/IIM/AIIMS means they cracked a certain exam. It has nothing to do with guaranteed moral values or even basic common sense. Lesson learnt the hard way I guess.

Supply Chain Manager

Last month, Krutrim AI had attained unicorn status for being the first indigenous LLM AI model of India. There was some hue and cry when it had distorted some historical concept of India. 

Today, the beta version was launched and upon pondering, it stated that it’s based of OpenAI’s LLM model…so they spent all this money & resources just a build a wrapper service. 

Frankly, this is just another scam & would lose credibility in a blink of an eye. Why do Indians lack innovation & just believe in simple copy pasting. 

Views are welcome.

Krutrim AI’s Beta launched, it’s a wrapper service of OpenAI

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- **SP Oswal**, chairman of Vardhman Group, was duped into transferring **₹7 crore** to cyber fraudsters posing as **CBI officials**.
- The fraudsters kept him under **digital surveillance** for two days via **Skype**, citing a **money-laundering case**.
- They impersonated **Chief Justice of India** and held a **fake Supreme Court hearing**.
- **Ludhiana police** arrested two people from Assam and identified seven others involved.
- The case was solved within **48 hours**, recovering **₹5.25 crore**.
 Source: [Hindustan Times](https://www.hindustantimes.com/business/vardhman-group-chief-sp-oswal-shares-how-he-was-duped-and-fell-into-a-trap-fake-sc-hearing-surveillance-cbi-101727694286796.html), [Zee News](https://zeenews.india.com/economy/industrialist-sp-oswal-duped-of-rs-7-crore-by-cyber-criminals-2800540.html)

Vardhman Group Chairman Duped of ₹7 Crore by Cyber Fraudsters

Journalist

Indians are crooks. Change my mind.

I can't seem to recall when India crashed the entire global economy while selling scammy financial products to uninformed buyers. 
  
 US, on the other hand, has a "Lehmann moment" every other year or so.

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Saw bhaiya didis shilling the product. Is it legit?

New Scam in town? *Jobsurance*

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The camp in my opinion is not what it claims to be. People who are doing well in the camp are the ones who took matters in their own hand and started learning on their own.

Pros:

1. Practice sets were given often(There were 27 practice sets of all topics) which helped us form the practice for writing code for hooks without wasting time in thinking about the approach.

2. Community is good. MA’s are very helpful and will guide you in every situation. Taking the time out of their busy schedule. Very thankful to them.

3. Machine coding rounds were conducted. Which helped us speed up the process. 

4. Revision sessions were conducted for people who couldn’t understand the lecture taken by Tanay. These sessions were taken by Akanksha.

Cons:

1. Redux was removed from course even though it is mentioned on the website. They say that redux is not important but it is, companies ideally want their candidates to know redux.

2. Tanay simply skims through a topic, does not go in depth inside any topic. An advice which he ironically gives in his youtube videos. He ignores any advanced questions asked in the session claiming he has not covered yet. Says he will teach later and does not cover that topic later.

3. We were forbidden to discuss anything that isn’t taught yet.Stopping the flow of knowledge. That means you can’t even use the community to discuss something new because they haven’t taught it yet.

4. MA’s(Ex-neoGrads) were discouraged from answering questions about topics that weren’t taught yet. They used to host sessions on hard topics that people didn’t understand in voice chats but were discouraged to do so.

5. Didn’t even cover the dependency array in useEffect hook. He just said you will keep it empty 90% of the time. useMemo and useCallback were not even mentioned. Forget about code optimizations. Honestly, you will learn more in a 30min youtube video than in their class.

Continued in comments......

Reality of neoG bootcamp

I joined Neog hoping to learn Advanced Full stack but LOL this whole bootcamp is a scam. They are only focussed on earning money. A simple 500rs Udemy course will teach you more than this Channa mereya drama. There has been 0 percent addition in my knowledge after joining NEOG because I already know basics I wanted to learn Advanced things. 
  
 1) No Lectures on memo and callback 
 2) No Redux 
 3) DSA lol (mentioned on the website) 
 4) Backend LMAO ( mentioned on the websit) 
 5) Industry Standard Coding - why is it even mentioned on the website. 
  
  
 I have no problem with Neog Do whatever you want. But please don't lie about your course. Just Mention it on your website that you will only teach basics. I regret that hard-earned money of my parents is wasted.

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Why are Indians so gullible?

Apparently money is moved and state is unaware. Also never understood why such large scale misappropriation of 89 Crores is never in the highlight.

Another scam?

Executive Coach

I just received a call from someone claiming he's from the bank I hold an account. Apparently, he knew the branch where it is located.
This was the conversation:

 Fraud : Mam apka account close ho jaega, PAN(in his accent it was 'pain') activated nahi hai na.
Me: Theek hai, kardo, koi baat nahi.
Fraud: Mam, me apke he branch se baat kar raha hun, counter no. 2 (Me trying to stop my laugh 😂)
Me: Oh acha, theek hai.
Fraud: Mam, account block kar de raha hun, fir ye kabhi open nhi hoga.
Me: Arey, acha thik hai kardo, me branch aake PAN activate kar lungi.
Fraud: Nahi Mam, ye sirf online he hoga, kahin koi branch se nhi hoga. Aap abhi PAN bata do, me kardunga.
Me: Acha, koi baat nahi, block kar do.
Fraud: Lekin Mam, reason to bataiye block karne ke liye ( I am Still laughing at this statement 🤣)
Me: Arey reason to aapne he bataya, ki PAN activated nhi hai.
Fraud: Han to abhi karwa lijiye, me kar dunga. Aap PAN bataiye.
Me: Arey koi na, band kardo, baad me dekhenge
Fraud: Thik hai kardeta hun, saare funds "Government account" me transfer hojaenge.
ME: Han krdo. 
  Then he drops the call out of frustration.

Fraud Bank call 😂

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