SleepyBanana
SleepyBanana
Stealth

Managers deliberately keep non performing employees to use them in a layoff scenario.

Thought I will make this revelation. Smart Managers deliberately continue to keep ordinary people in their team and these people are given a decent hike too so that they can stay in the company until there is a layoff scenario. This generally happens with product based companies that undergo periodic layoffs regardless of economic slowdown.

So if you are an ordinary employee & continue to get encouraging feedback from your manager plus a decent hike every year, beware! This might be a smart-trap laid by your manager.

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SleepyNugget
SleepyNugget
Stealth18mo

This seems unnecessarily complicated. No decent company gives managers spare or underperforming employees deliberately to use in case of layoffs months or years in advance. Managers will ask their deputies on outcomes from their team, this seems unlikely

SleepyBanana
SleepyBanana
Stealth18mo

I pity people that are so naive that they refuse to believe the art of presenting a rosy picture to the leadership team.

Not saying every manager is like that. But the ‘tantra’ used by ‘some’ smart & shrewd ones is worth to be brought to people’s knowledge. Rest, I’ll leave it to individuals whether to believe this post or not.

SleepyNugget
SleepyNugget
Stealth18mo

I have unfortunately been part of layoff discussions, on both ends. While I’m not saying this is impossible, it is highly improbable considering the amount of headache managers have to go through to justify every single person in their team. Senior folks eat you alive, demanding visibility and justification of each “resource” that is part of the manager’s team.

People don’t realise this till they become managers and senior folks start demanding these justifications

GoofyDonut
GoofyDonut
Stealth18mo

Companies like amazon PIP employees instead of giving encouraging feedback.

Is that something you did often as a manager?

SleepyBanana
SleepyBanana
Stealth18mo

There’s a reason why I voluntarily switched into an IC role.

GoofyDonut
GoofyDonut
Stealth18mo

Didn’t like doing it or didn’t get to do it?

PrancingJellybean
PrancingJellybean
Stealth18mo

This is very true. They also keep low performing people in team and give them decent rating so that it is easier to load them off to another team.

SleepyBanana
SleepyBanana
Stealth18mo

I’ve worked with/under best & worst managers around me. My only intention was to make you all aware.

BouncyCupcake
BouncyCupcake
Stealth4mo

Yes, it’s a pretty standard practice across corporates as well. My boss once told me this on his own, that why do you think there are so many incompetent people in this company ? Then he gave me this answer which you have posted.

DancingNoodle
DancingNoodle
Uber18mo

Apparently at amazon new folks are hired as easy candidates for PIP since there’s a PIP quota that needs to be filled. Apparently*, idk how true this is

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