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From past few weeks we have seen several posts on the app about how PM are ‘shyt’ they don’t contribute anything and they should know how to code they don’t know technical stuff etc. So, my request to all the Techies here please suggest me how do I show the recruiters/hiring managers/my engg team that I know how to code and understand tech. I seriously want to learn all these stuff but how to show any tangible evidence that I know how stuff works and is built, as my day job I won’t be able to code as I am a PM but let me know what I can do on side one or two hours every day and maybe at the end of six months I am able to show that I have done something that is an evidence that I know tech.

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Coy Gabriel

Hidden

a year ago

Hope this post is not satirical 😂 Sharing my view on this being a PM & working in large product orgs: I think the ask would not be to know code hands-on as such. Rather hands-on coding/ designing is a red flag. You'll get flagged as gets involved into solution-ing and doesn't anchor biz case etc. The best PMs I have worked with, have a deep understanding of existing systems, it's capabilities, it's architecture, and defend engg in front of biz. Works with biz in shaping up requirements (before even involving engg for groom) which is feasible & fun to work on. You should not get a hacky requirement nor should you get a requirement which literally requires re-arch of core systems. And yes - know enough to inspect chrome, figure out what seems to be breaking, go to datadog/kibana/metabase, and come back with insights. Don't be someone who just passes emails from biz to engg & vice versa. And puts down notes in the form of half baked PRD. And to your original question of showing this as evidence, I don't think anybody asks during actual Senior PM hiring as well. There is an engg round and you qualify that. A lot of this noise comes from frustrated engineers who think PMs are free-balling random requirements with limited visibility of how biz takes sudden u turn on their requirements or randomly drops a last minute corner case 😂😂
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Matilda Taye

Stealth

a year ago

This was not satirical! Great answer especially the last paragraph on business making u turns and last minute wants garbed in the form of requests. 🙌🏻
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Jordon Lee

Stealth

a year ago

I had a PM who couldn't maaro SQL queries. He also asked us to help engineers with finding Stack Overflow codes for shit like list of countries, social thumbnail for websites. :( May all the PMs be like you described
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Aaron Lee

Google

a year ago

Let’s stop feeding the troll tbh. There are always valid criticisms of anything but 1) need to present in good faith 2) be nice and respectful. Being anonymous shouldn’t give you a pass for constructive discussions.
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Kendall Denver

Crypto

a year ago

Start a blog build a website and learn python. Later you can learn anything else that’s required 2hrs/day to anything is a lot if you do it diligently
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