Why is this a**ho** bragging about identifying tricks similar Zilingo. He literally worked there for 4 years as the head of EMEA. Is he saying "Been there, done that. I can spot fraud from a mile away because I have done everything and more". 
 Also, I don't think he would have evaluated Groyyo. Because Artha does early stage investing, and Groyyo is already too big for them to look at.

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Came across this post by a VC  and he mentions a startup that is similar to zilingo and mentions that the startup is ‘pulling similar tricks as Zilingo’  cooking the books.   Does anyone have any i...

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Came across this post by a VC - and he mentions a startup that is similar to zilingo and mentions that the startup is ‘pulling similar tricks as Zilingo’ - cooking the books. 

Does anyone have any insight about what is actually happening at Groyyo?

Subtle Dig at Groyyo?

Founder’s Office

Subtle Dig at Groyyo?- Grapevine

Heard Groyyo is cooking numbers? Is it true? Can any VC guy confirm?

Growth Manager

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What an absolute shit show
https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/technology/fraud-threats-sexual-harassment-zilingos-ankiti-bose-files-fir-against-co-founder-ex-coo-12706929.html

Zilingo CEO files FIR against COO & CTO

Zilingo is already defunct. A once billion dollar startup that is now literally 0. 
One of the major startup scams. Investors just kept lapping up the GMV growth.

And now when everything is over, co-founders filing FIRs against themselves.
Disappointing.

My only appeal to everyone: please call out if you're at a startup that's doing similar stuff. A lot of careers can get saved...

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Product Manager

There was news sometime back about their core business shutting down. Also rumours of something up. 

Since then been silent. Anybody has updates

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/startups/tiger-global-alpha-wave-rope-in-deloitte-to-evaluate-b2b-startup-groyyos-trading-business/articleshow/104804537.cms?from=mdr

Does anybody know what’s up at Groyyo?

They’ve been mentioned in posts here previously, this is just an official update that something was wrong

Anybody knows more of what went on there?

Tiger backed Groyyo will have to shut down its B2B/trading business

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Investors rope in Deloitte at Groyyo to shut down its B2B trading business

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/startups/tiger-global-alpha-wave-rope-in-deloitte-to-evaluate-b2b-startup-groyyos-trading-business/articleshow/104804537.cms

Another Indian B2B company going down according to Economic Times. B2B GMV fraud clean up continues finally!

Investor

What really happened here? I’m curious.

Any thoughts on Zilingo liquidation?

Software Developer

Let's examine a snapshot of the Swiggy Engineering VPs' status from three months ago and compare it to their current situation.

CTO Dale departed just yesterday.
Storefront - Madhu has been promoted to the role of CTO, and we are awaiting the appointment of a new VP.
ATS - Ashish is currently serving his notice period.
MFP - Piyush has left the company, and Soumya has taken on additional responsibilities.
RNG - Nitesh is currently interviewing with other firms.
DIP - Soumya is still performing well in their role.
DevOps - Anurodh is in charge.
Location Intelligence - Pradnya is currently serving her notice period.

One potential reason for their departure is the recent devaluation, which has resulted in an unofficial 50% reduction in the value of the ESOPs. Given the minimal salary increases, unless prompt action is taken by the remaining leadership, this ship will inevitably sink!

PS The engineers at Swiggy are aware of the alternative interpretation of SOS.

Swiggy SOS

yaar pehli baat to ye ki don't assume that everyone knows the meaning of those god damned  abbreviations ....

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Latest scam in the indus valley

I have evaluated a lot of startups as part of my work. My approach has changed from being optimistic to being suspicious of a lot of founders, even before the process starts. 

The sheer number of founders that I come across that try to game metrics/play around with data to make the startup look good. 

Most commonly:
1) Completely changing the definition of margins, repeat rates, etc. and never clarifying that they are using different definition. 
2) Often giving rebates/discounts to key stakeholders but finding ways to hide it from their P&L so that it’s not visible. THIS IS SO COMMON - lot’s of them start showing revenues, and then you will see another cost item rising at the same pace, and lot’s of times it will just be money moving around
3) Sometimes completely giving the wrong picture of how their product works on ground. You then speak with their customers, and they describe something completely else.

Things like these are eating up the ecosystem. These founders also end up fooling some VCs, and then capital get’s kept away from actually good founders who have good intentions.

There was a recent major investment in the commerce space, and that is another one such example of a startup doing this. Needs to stop.

RANT: Founders who fake metrics

Product Owner

I was speaking to an ex-colleague and he mentioned how my previous employer, a lending startup, has been intentionally over-reporting disbursal numbers and under-reporting delinquencies in portfolio.

They conveniently chuck the NBFC partners who dare to ask questions and instead catch new fish. During my time I saw sales staff committing rampant frauds and making money on the sides from users. The founders conveniently turned a blind eye till there was new business coming in. They've seemingly moved on to the next level now.

The founders have top pedigree and already come from well off families. Makes me wonder how many such skeletons are buried across startups and what leads to such behaviour. Especially in the wake of what we saw with GoMechanic, Zilingo etc.

Frauds at startups

Business Operations

So finally, someone spoke about this fraudulent startup AstroTalk. How they operate and how they take advantage of gullible people, is completely explained in the video. These kinds of startups need to be busted on LinkedIn and other social media platforms so that no one calls prey for such cheap tactics. This is just another BYJUs in the making. The cofounder is an IIT IIM grad. Shows how greed can even pollute the minds of even highly educated people. Really don't understand how the VCs can be so fucking dumb, funding them with 165 Crores!! Shocking but it isn't surprising since the Indian Startup ecosystem is filled with such scam artists.

Scam called AstroTalk - BYJUs 2.0

Jab tak hum jaise log IIM/IITians ki G chaat te rahenge tab tak ye hume chutiya banate rahenge. 4 din baad tum chutiye sab bhool jaoge fir kisi naye IIT/IIM led startup ko linkedin par praise karoge jab tak wo bubble itna bada na ho jaye ki use criticise kar pao…fir kisi anonymous platform par aajakr “OMG SO FUCKING DISGUSTING” bold doge kyuki linkedin par to tumhari gaand thandi ho jati hai kisi ko criticise karte hue…aur ye cycle bas chalta rahega…so moral of the story is, tum hi log chutiye ho wo nahi.

Product Designer

Sales

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Could anybody from Zepto or Ex-Zepto shed some light on their engineering culture. 
In the process of considering either Zepto or an early stage pre-seed startup.

My priorities in order:
1. Learning 
2. Good hierarchy of managers
3. Stability 
4. Pay

Zepto tech culture

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VC here. Doing this for fun.
Don't take all views seriously.

Comment a startup's name, I'll share if it's promising or whatever I know

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This may sound like a dumb question, but why do these companies fire just before the IPO? isn't an IPO a good thing? More cashflow. Shouldn't they be taking care of their employees who made it reach there?

What exactly is the thought process behind this mass layoff before IPO?

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