We need two IT unions 
 Income Taxpayer Union Of India 
 Information Technology Union Of India 
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Software Engineer

I found two unions that are working for the cause. Do check them out. 
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As we're all seeing the levels of injustice in the workplaces all accross the country, with useless laws and BS working hours limits. I think we need more and more labour unions fighting these inju...

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As we're all seeing the levels of injustice in the workplaces all accross the country, with useless laws and BS working hours limits. I think we need more and more labour unions fighting these injustices. How do you think this can come to fruition?

We need more Labour Unions in India.

We need more Labour Unions in India.- Grapevine

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So i was actually wondering why there are no association for engineers similar to the auto people. Like employee unions also. If there any layoffs, the association come in and do protests against the companies like auto people doing against the government . Any thoughts on this?

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Came to know of a case where HR tried to quash a serious POSH complaint. Tried to blame the victim instead of handling the case properly.

Victim was forced to file police complaint, even then HR was just looking for reasons to fire so they just quit.

Perpetrator wasn't even someone very senior or important to the company, yet company tried to protect them for no good reason and downplay the complaint even though there was a witness. 

Sad state of affairs, really might want to look into creating unions or something.

POSH unenforced by HR

Product Owner

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https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/narendra-modi-narayan-murthy-70-hour-work-week-advice-sajjan-jindal-101698466218610-amp.html

Modi works 14-16 hrs daily: Sajjan Jindal

Actuarial Associate

With all the things going around including companies taking employees for a ride, why do you think officials in governing bodies are not solving for labour laws slightly even in favour of employees? 🧐
How can private folks help or influence officials to change the labour laws. 🤔

Until then we will always see folks feeling cheated by their companies, big or small. 😥🫣

Indian labor system & laws

Private Equity

I am so frustrated by observing how some Indian startup founders have been mistreating employees. This is happening literally in all the startups and corporates.

Many of us invest their precious time and money obtaining degrees, only to become corporate employees.

India won the WC on Saturday night, and since then, I have seen numerous rant posts from people complaining that they missed this moment because they were overworked.

The rate of employee exploitation is alarmingly high, as founders often believe they have alot of options and are driven by their greed for money.

Look at the plight of startups, the top management says they do not have money so they lay off the whole departments without any prior notice. Yet they spend so lavishly on showing investors or on their socials how cool they all are.

We are bloody engineers, not their family bound slaves.
Why do we suffer ? 

I believe it is high time that we establish a union for employees working in the IT industry.
This exploitative culture needs to come to an end.

A Union of-by-for White Collar Employees

Looks like you can't register a union unless you're employed by a certain company. Self employed people can't register unions.

But it is okay to create unregistered/unofficial unions which don't have any legal right to create contracts or mediate between employees and companies.

I guess an unofficial one could still organize strikes, come up with guidelines/rules for companies and do advocacy for employees.

https://www.legalwindow.in/how-to-register-a-trade-union-in-india/

Might as well keep it unofficial, unregistered and informal. No legal, monetary or taxation hassle. Could even be anonymous leadership/members maybe 👀

What do you think?

Should there be a Union of startup and tech employees?

Generalist

Last month I interviewed with NoBroker for a Demand Servicing Head position. The process went like this:

2 rounds of screening with HR/TA - was okay, good conversations. After which they scheduled an interview with the Business Head for the particular team. This interview went well too. 

After this they sent me an assignment - the longest assignment I've ever worked on as a part of the recruitment process. It asked me to write multiple detailed SOPs for the sales team, build a demand forecast model, and a complete demand generation plan for an oddly specific scenario. They gave me 5 days for it. 

I worked my a** off, desperate to get the job as I've been unemployed for some time. I did the assignment close to perfection - spoke to so many industry folks in real estate and made realistic assumptions, covering all possibilities. 

All in all I've not been so confident about my work ever like I was in this case. I submit and they acknowledge. 

Few days go by, I follow up, only to be given generic delay reasons by HR. Eventually, after more than a week they rejected me. When I requested for feedback on the assignment they completely ghosted me. 

I don't know why I'm sharing this here, but it's been hard. I've been jobless for > 5 months and every such experience completely shatters my already low self esteem further.

Disappointing Interview @ Nobroker

Hang in there, the efforts you made for assignment will help you somewhere in future. Good luck!

Project Manager

The labour laws should be governed and created to support the working labours, not the rich, elite and the CEOs. 

Just look at the working condition at Twitter. If this was in India, he could've fired 1000s of people without giving any severence at all. No government would've cared. That's how pathetic our country's labour laws are.

Laws should make companies think twice before exploiting their people who had worked hard to support the company.

This is how a Country's Labour Laws should be enforced 👏🏻👏🏻

Analyst

It's infuriating how everyone's advice to deal with layoffs is side hustles, wasting your life away to constantly upskill and reducing spending. Basically everyone here is saying "live life like shit to appease your corporate overlords" as if layoffs are OUR fault?

Instead, why aren't we seeing any advice on the lines of:

Build expertise in something while you're an employee and later start your own company/business/consultation on the basis of it. This will increase competition within businesses and will force them to treat their employees like humans. This was kind of the reason why things were generally good for employees from 2021-22 because all the startups popping up increased competition for labour.

Or if your employer lays a bunch of people off and starts giving the rest of you their workload, simply refuse! Don't work extra long or extra hard. Get the employees together collectively and make everyone, or at least the majority refuse to entertain these outlandish demands from your employers. What are they gonna do? Fire you all and lose their business? And if that's not going to work, just do everything very poorly and if you're asked about it, just cite that there is a lack of manpower needed to get quality results.

Basically, why have we collectively decided to take the short end of the stick and make our lives miserable when we should instead force employers to face consequences of THEIR OWN poor strategic planning? Why aren't we even discussing ideas for, let alone working on protecting our own best interests rather than interests of those who are screwing us over?

[Layoffs] Why have we just collectively decided to suck it up rather than retaliate?

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India is a land of slaves

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Compared to white ones. Obviously not all of us may have the same experience but this is a general stereotype and my own experience.

Please enlighten gyani people.

Why are Indian managers hard to work with?

After the unfortunate death of the EY CA, the whole country is talking about how work life balance should be prioritised but will we ever do it?

There is no solidarity among corporate workers. The people in the top posts of the hierarchy will always try to suck the life out of their juniors. Everyone is compared based on the package they get, the project they work on or the awards they receive. Do you really expect a “union” from these people? A junior employee can never stand up for himself as the reply from the senior will always be - There are many others who can take this up just quit the job.

Labor law is a total shit show in our great country. Leadership is focused on just three things - Division based on religion, reservation and freebies. We say India is one of the strongest economies but the dark reality here is the government begs the companies to set up their base here in return of “labourers” who can slog all day like robots. These labourers are replaceable at any moment of time and paid peanuts. Now think of this - No work life balance, shitty pay but the highest taxes. 

The sad reality is that there is not a single person who can or will stand for us corporate majdoors. Youngsters are having various health issues like weight gain, BP, Diabetes and hair loss but who cares right? This is how it is. Keep slogging to get to the top and repeat the same with your juniors.

Will we ever stand up for ourselves?

I geniually want to understand why we are behind in manufacturing ? Although I'm from commerce background but I would love to know how does one start manufacturing business in India ?

What type of engineers you need ? Honestly I don't have any clue but if any has some information pls discuss here.

Why is Indian manufacturing so behind compared to China ?

Autocracy vs democracy. China got to manipulate its currency for two decades at a stretch - got it pegged at 6 remnibi to usd keeping exports cheap, influenced/lobbies/spied at the highest levels in the US government for decades (look up Larry Wu Tai). This meant unbelievably high USD inflow into China for decades. Chinese nationals who emigrate to US are loyal to China, steal IPs, some are even PLA trained - look up PLA members posing as students in ivy leagues. China pays up American profs to work for them (look up collaborations of Wuhan institute of virology). Their communist background helped since most American institutions are infiltrated by communists thanks to Russia paving the way - so much that they got US to dethrone ROC (Taiwan) from UNSC. Till today, US does not recognise Taiwan as an independent nation despite the grandstanding. Not saying this is all wrong, but they played geopolitics very well over decades and got loyal, nationalistic citizens.

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Shouldn't the government come up with a policy to introduce minimum wage, at least for freshers and interns working on site? Everywhere I see, interns and freshers are exploited like crazy. One can't even achieve basic standards of living with a 20k stipend. How is it legal for companies to make one work 10+ hours at a stipend of 20k-30k? That's like being paid 200-300 per hour.

Minimum wage in India

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I feel there's  need of employee union to raise our voice against these mfs capitalist companies. Europe atleast have minimum wage and minimum working hours fixed. Here we have to fight for bare minimum wage increment also. Laut aao Karl Marx 😭✊🏻
Hint: PCS ne 1.2% increment diya 🥲 and they did decrement in double digits for some employees 🤬

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#Sanghnomics: Modi government's approach to give a major boost to entrepreneurship through Mudra loans and start-up India can be seen as a solution to the unemployment problem. The government shouldn't be seen as the employment creator; it should be seen as a facilitator. Arun Anand

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