Man, low performance ratings to everyone. Almost no comp budget for appraisals!!

Infrastructure Engineer

Engineering Manager

Try. If you get in you’ll understand what I meant.

Product Manager

I understand @salt . I feel like politics is everywhere even in startups, why not join there for a year or two and move out to get better offer. I wonder how is the culture in locations outside India

Machine Learning Engineer

@Pvykey is right. Politics is in startups as well, as they are burning money left and right and now the survival mode has begun

Software Engineer

Politics is sadly everywhere. The only thing one can do is keep looking down, work hard and gun for a role that brings you joy. Stay married to your career not your company.

Very hush hush internally at Google about this right now. Everyone knows about it but nobody seems to acknowledge it in my team. I have realised that even if I was the smartest person on the planet I couldnt change the trajectory of Google. I have made my money and I am thinking of going to a smaller company.

Software Developer

That has made me seriously look at nonFAANG jobs. FAANG no longer pays the best and no longer is the best work culture, is something I am starting to realise the more I talk to my friends about it.

That has made me seriously look at non-FAANG jobs. FAANG no longer pays the best and no longer is the best work culture, is something I am starting to realise the more I talk to my friends about it.

What do we think about the ongoing brutal layoffs at Google?

What do we think about the ongoing brutal layoffs at Google?- Grapevine

To conduct layoffs on regular basis :) Role ends on 2024 means a bigger wave is coming. 

https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/4041876488

Google is hiring a Layoff Support team Partner

Looking at so many layoffs at Google, Cloudflare and FAANG-type comoanies; that too in spite of having profitable quarters makes me think of FAANG is a curse instead of blessing?
Anyone with similar thoughts?

FAANG unattractive in 2024

Had a call with my cousin this weekend. Life has been very hectic lately so, I have been laying low for a while now. Anyway, my cousin reached out and he brought up something very interesting. He mentioned how the quality of new engineering grads at FAANG has been trending downwards over the last three or so years.

Technical competency aside, there is a weird behavioural shift wherein freshers have adopted job hopping every 2-3 years. He told me that there are zero engineers who stayed longer than 3 years at his org. 

I mean optimizing for pay is fine. The thing to really balance for is impact in the long run because at one point you would find it hard to scale beyond a Lead/EM role at an org. 

But the real thing is that the "FAANG" hype has started to die down amongst the 99th percentile of talent. I wonder how long will it take to have a trickle down effect to 80th percentile and so on.

Just to validate, I asked a friend for his opinion and he opined that "Bhai, tum FAANG mei naaukar ho ya kisi startup mei, ho toh naukar hi." Translation: "You can work at FAANG, or at a startup but you are still a servant(employee)"

Is the FAANG hype really dead?

Is the FAANG hype dead? 💀

Was there any faang hype among 99th percentile folks in the first place?? 
 I graduated from a tier-1 college, majority of my friends are from Similar colleges and if I look in my friend circle, most of the folks are working at high growth startups or something of their own.  
 Sorry to say but faang was never aspirational to begin with.  
 The target audience of youtuber bhaiya/didis were tier-2/3 folks and maybe this kind of hype exists among them.

Why do you want to work at FAANG? or Why do you not want to work at FAANG?

Why do you (not) want to work at FAANG?

Product Marketing Manager

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40171125

Google layoffs clarity

A lot of these jobs will move to cheaper countries, they won’t be completely scraped. India should benefit

Investor

Contemplating between an offer at Google vs a Series A startup, in India, with similar pay.

I'm curious to know if Google as a name on the resume (or for future prospects) is still as big as it was maybe 5-8 years ago? 

Or is India just a low cost employee centre for them and it'll always be down-the-stream work, at the whims of middle/senior managers?

YoE: 4
Role: Analytics

Happy to hear any thoughts (and answer any questions)!

Is Google/FAANG still as sought after?

Data engineer

Want to get some perspective here because I think it’d be valuable to hear about other people’s experiences.
This job at Google has completely destroyed my confidence and I feel so paranoid about shipping anything now.
I have made some mistakes but I have always caught them in staging or working drafts.

Here is what my manager has said to me:
- I lack attention to detail.
- I do not have drive.
- I do not have any ambition.

And the reason I have been told this is because:
I messed up a flow that the Lead PM had come up with in the first place. Then the Lead PM flips back on me and says that it would be "an embarrassment" to ship this.

I find myself immersed in a constant cycle of spending hours each day reviewing work, gripped by the fear of facing criticism or even the prospect of being fired. Despite investing significant time and effort, it seems that the only feedback I receive is overwhelmingly negative. It has reached a point where I question myself and wonder if I should have not been here at all. This toxic work environment is undeniably draining, and I'm left grappling with insane anxiety. Has anyone else faced this?

Am I bad at My Job Or Do I Just Work With Unstable Coworkers?

This has become a common discussion topic in my friend circle when we think about switching jobs. Earlier Google used to be number one choice for many, but now due to layoffs and the hear-say about toxic work culture in google cloud things are changing and people are preferring other companies. Is it the same for you as well ? has your perception of Google changing too? Is google loosing both the cloud and AI battle? 
@google

Is Google no longer the dream company it used to be?

The FAANG and unicorn employee salaries for even 2-7 YOE engineers is quite insane compared to the average Indian employee pay in other sectors of the economy.

The average SDE2 at these companies makes 50+ lakhs per year in compensation (not “CTC” but real money) The average SDE3 makes 80+ lakhs which is frankly insane.

What are you guys doing with all that money?

FAANG & unicorn folks, what do you do with all that money?

Giving 34.2% directly and 18-28% indirectly to gormint. My biggest expenses by a country mile.

Security Engineer

Analyst

Welcome to Product Managers's Private Community

ecently, have seen 5+ posts on LinkedIn, about Google hiring for different products like gen ai, security and education. 

In job portal, they haven't mentioned about MBA or any specific requirement apart from yoe. Wanted to know, what does Google wants in a PM, and what is the salary range for a PM there, if they need a 4 year experienced product manager?


Also, how are these criterias soft or quite rigid?

Google is hiring for Product Managers

Declared for the states: We’ll pay employees during the full notification period (minimum 60 days).
We’ll also offer a severance package starting at 16 weeks salary plus two weeks for every additional year at Google, and accelerate at least 16 weeks of GSU vesting.

We’ll pay 2022 bonuses and remaining vacation time. 
We’ll be offering 6 months of healthcare, job placement services, and immigration support for those affected. 

Outside the US, we’ll support employees in line with local practices.

Google layoff details

People who were affected just got emails. Orgs include Search, Cloud, Ads , Assistant,  Pixel, etc. Engg is affected

Big layoffs at Google!

Last I saw someone post that his Google Interview has started.  
  
 Guess, FAANG are showing their fangs.  
  
 Apple laid off subcontractors and not employees from what I read.

Research Engineer

Welcome to Office Gossip's Private Community

I was interning at Microsoft and got the PPO as well. But I chose to join a remote startup and resigned from Microsoft, for various reasons including Pay, Learning, Product, Tech stack, etc.

And everyone I talked with since then has asked the same thing, "bro why did you leave Microsoft?",  "bro Microsoft is such a big brand", blah blah.

When are we going to realize that working for a FAANG /MAANG /FAANGMULA /LODALASAN company is not the ultimate goal of everyone's life ?

Why are people so obsessed with FAANG tag ?

Hi I want to get job at offcampus Microsoft, I am cse-2024 passout unplaced.

Tell me from scratch what all skills are required to crack Microsoft,what should all i have to do? (CP,DSA...etc? )
I am ready to work really super hard 

Please spare  2min time and comment it will help me a lot

Microsoft, help me

I have worked at Microsoft for a year at L59, got the job through campus selection. 
Despite of a lot of hard work, my manager said there is not much hope to promote me to L60 even after 6 more months.
I landed an offer in Google, with 25 percent increase in inhand salary and almost same valued stock component as in my current CTC.
Despite of the salary change being so good, I’ve had people telling me that this is not a good time to switch to Google because:
1. The laying off secenario at Google 
2. The work life balance has become terrible there in the past year
3. There is a lot of office politics there, so bad working environment in general 
4. Microsoft Stocks have a lot more potential than Google stocks

Please share your opinions on Google vs Microsoft.
Thanks.

Getting an offer from Google after spending 1 year in Microsoft

Data Scientist

Welcome to Software Engineers's Private Community

Hi All, I am a recent graduate from one of the NITs with 9 months as a SWE at a startup. I wanted to see if someone can refer me to any of the top tech companies or if anyone can share experience for how to get into top tech companies.

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