Let's say your performance was really good, you delivered the tasks on time and all of them were approved, you talk nicely to people but you aren't a peoplepleaser and not from the cofounder's plac...

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Let's say your performance was really good, you delivered the tasks on time and all of them were approved, you talk nicely to people but you aren't a people-pleaser and not from the cofounder's place and hence your co-founders chose to fire you. What will you do?

What will you do if you lose your job cz u aren't from cofounder's place?

UX/UI Designer

What will you do if you lose your job cz u aren't from cofounder's place?- Grapevine

IIT grad here building a venture backed startup. I think 99% of folks here believe that venture backed founders are super entitled and in a much "cosier" position than employees

Just sharing a few facts about our journey so far if it helps anyone improve their perspectives-

1) Paying ourselves 33% of our campus salary & 60% of what we are paying to our employees (Talking about Pure Base Salary here, not including ESOPs)

2) Insane stress - You basically have to raise money to build (esp if its deeptech because of the high fixed costs) and there are predefined metrics you have to always chase, sometimes just beyond yourselves. 

Your product will be copied if it's good because well, they always have more money than you. You work 7 days a week for insane hours, chasing metrics required to be "afloat" 

3) 99% of venture backed startups result in 0 liquidity gain for founders. So basically in all likeliness, everything is for a net negative return compared to if we took the campus job

So, when you wholeheartedly bash founders as if they are sitting On a goldmine while you are toiling for THEIR gold Treasure, just understand that more likely than not, there is not really any gold but rather an irrational hope they are clinging to

Also, Yes-we pay above market to our employees (100% hike for the last one) but the truth is some startups just Can't afford it. And ironically, there is a much higher looking down on these startups with meagurely paid founders rather than giants like Tech Mahindra paying peanuts to their employees while having a 1000% salary hike for the executives. 

Yeah, most startups need to do better but please appreciate if someone is atleast trying to do better because trust me, it's INSANELY HARD.. 

The number of posts I see about Flipkart making hundreds millionaires is way too less than the ones I see about pinpointing at every single mistake early stage startups do & I just wanted to express my opinion on it

Peace!

People way overestimate the life of founders

Oh no poor founders, they have to pay fair salary to their employees.

Software Engineer

Founder

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Can someone tell me which are the good product based companies for .Net developer with 1.5 YOE.

.net jobs in product based companies

I'm working as a Frontend developer (SDE-1) with 1.5yoe, I joined this startup 4 months back. Earlier I was getting paid 9lpa and later I was offered 12lpa without even asking for my previous compensation. I accepted because my earlier organisation was very toxic. Now coming to the point, 

I came to know that for the same level and same role they're paying 16+lpa. And this is making me mad at them. 

Within 3 months I'm handling 1 of their 2 products (customer facing) all alone. And I'm doing great work tbh (not boasting) but if they have 10 major features. I have developed 4 of them all alone, solved really critical down time bugs and improved the product. 

Now I own this product and if any bugs come, I'm the person who's assigned the work.

I want to have a chat with the Founder but I'm not sure what to say and he's a guy who will try to save the money at all costs. 

I'm really mad at this point of time and I'm planning to leave in a few months. 

If I have a chat with him and he says something harsh, I will resign then and there I'm triggered to this level. 

And there was no kind of appreciation from them, I'm taking most tickets during the sprints and delivering quality code, communicating well and thinking in terms of product, if there is anything which can be improved I ask from them.

How do I have a chat with him and what do I say?
Current CTC - 12lpa
Expected CTC - 16 - 20lpa
YOE- 1.5 (planning to have the call around 3-4 months later), so I will be almost 2 yoe by then.

Pay disparity in my startup.

You are being paid 75% of what others are being paid at the same level. 
  
 Reduce your inputs by 75% to achieve fair parity (no. of tickets or work hours or whatever). 
  
 Use the saved time to prepare for your job switch.

Software Developer

Welcome to Office Gossip's Private Community

- Remove people from Townhall meet because there camera is not switched on.

- Do an app revamp because he gets cognitive overload, and not users.

- Forces decisions without an objective measurement for outcome. 


Guess, who!

How to be a toxic founder?

questioning everything (literally), self doubt at peak.

just a rant.

i got fired from series A startup

1. Never compromise on ds/algo practice and design. You should get time every week for this.
2. Never trust any company and don't settle
3. Company can replace you anytime. HR just need to float job and hundreds of applicant will apply whereas if you need to find a job you first have to grind LC and design and then you will get ready. This makes a uneven situation.
4. You are not replaceable for your family, friends and loved ones

Benefits of working in toxic or too much work environment
1. Learning
2. A little better payscale
3. Close peer group of colleague 

Cons 
1. You won't get time for practice your interview skills so you would have hard time cracking interviews
2. High pressure can leads to high stress that can lead to less growth in long run and burn out. Once you burn out, your Employer attitude may change
3. You would not have time for your friends and family. You may even lose your social circle. Whereas the colleague group that you would form would start to fade away once you leave that place.
4. It would form a unbalanced relationship where you are more dependent on your Employer and won't be able to do much even if you get less increment or other issues
5. You would not have time for investment or growing your wealth. Your long term wealth is not how much you earn it is how much you have(savings + growth on saving)

What to do if you feel you join such company
- find opportunities and get out in initial days or probation period. You can wipe out that experience from your resume
- Contact the companies you had offer from and ask them to reconsider if they can

What to do if you are stuck in such company
- do a little less work and start preparing. Once you are little confidence start doing lesser work and look for opportunities. At this point in time you don't have to fear them much. Firing is pretty common now 
- Be aware of your rights in worst case as per employment agreement

Way to survive in industry

Software Architect

I joined Synkrama Technologies Private Limited  with enthusiasm, inspired by a positive and supportive environment. Initially, the atmosphere seemed promising, and I was motivated to contribute to the team. However, as time went on, I faced numerous challenges that profoundly impacted my professional and personal well-being.

Early in my tenure, I was appointed as a Team Lead on several projects. This role, though a significant opportunity, came with immense pressure from our CEO, KJ. The expectation was to meet deadlines at any cost, which led to continuous mental stress. Under his directives, I inadvertently became a source of pressure for my colleagues , AN , and AB and other major colleagues . This created a strained and uncomfortable working environment for all of us as i used to put pressure on them on the influence of Karan Jain 

The situation worsened as I found myself working through weekends and even during leaves, resulting in severe mental exhaustion. Despite these efforts, new developers were hired, and I was sidelined. This period was particularly tough, leading to depression and sleepless nights. After enduring this for several months, I decided to resign from my position.

Unexpectedly, KJ contacted me, urging me to withdraw my resignation. He assured me that the previous issues would be resolved and praised my contributions. Reluctantly, I decided to stay, hoping for a positive change.

However, the company's environment continued to pose challenges. We were subjected to screen monitoring via Team Logger, where management frequently questioned my idle time. Despite my high productivity and efficiency, I was often scrutinized for taking breaks or assisting colleagues, which is essential for maintaining a collaborative workspace.

Most recently, a significant and distressing event occurred, further affirming my decision to share my experience publicly. it’s crucial to address and bring awareness to the toxic practices that can affect employees’ mental health and overall well-being.

I hope my story encourages organizations to foster genuinely supportive environments and prioritize the mental health of their employees.

source: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rutvik-borad-12409b19b_theabrcurseabrofabrcoprorate-activity-7199762667471839233-3wyR

The Curse of Corporate

I saw your post on LinkedIn yesterday and shared it with my friends and colleagues. In my previous organization, my manager faced a similar issue but didn't have the courage to speak out. I'm glad you addressed it, as it will surely encourage others to share their stories and raise awareness about such practices. Thank you for your bravery.

Data Scientist

Education

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As the title suggests, I often wonder what is the natural progression for people who join startups in Chief of Staff or even Founder's office roles? Do they move to a specialized vertical internally? Or do they move to other startups in CoS roles? Or they do their own venture (I like to believe this is still less likely). Have this thought because a lot of Tier 1 MBA, MBB consultant profiles have been moving to these roles and it really makes me wonder what path would the careers of these top talents take?

Future of Chief of Staff roles

Consultant

Someone in ur team or someone u had good relationship (work wise) with gets laid off? Do u discontinue working as hard? Does ur team velocity decrease or increase as everyone does better for survival?
Just wanna hear from folks who have gone through this and does employer not see any affect in work? (E.g. Twitter case)

With all the layoffs news, how do u cope when…

It's gonna be long thread. 

I have been working as lead engineer in a early stage startup since last one year. 

Founder (20 years exp in Product Management) raised some money from friends & family to start it and but company was running negative from February and he put his money to pay employees salary for March & April and We were hoping for some investment in April but that didn't happen. 

During May & June, he was looking for funding more aggressively and even after having a good background in academics & top tech work experience in product management, no investor got convinced to invest in it. 

Our salary for March & April was delayed from actual payroll date by 7 days and 21 days respectively and We were expecting our May salary to be delayed by same period and our company was about to complete one year in first week of July so we had some one year benefits associated as well. 

But Boom, he invited everyone on call and tells that company will shutting it's operation from next day itself. And he will help us find our new jobs and he doesn't any clarity on pending salary. 

Although we knew, our company is not in good shape so salary cut or something might be happening soon but didn't expect this. 

Now, we have to find other jobs and also be unemployed while searching for job and also get exploited by other companies because we will be desperate to find jobs to pay our bills. 

I think, he did this just before 5-6 days of our one year anniversary just because he doesn't get legally bound to pay our one year benefits. 

I for sure, not gonna join any early stage in future who doesn't have enough funding. 

Just wanted to put this story out of my mind. Open for any suggestions you have for me

Thank you

Startup let go Eng team on 1 day notice

I recently started a new job. I would like to share some of the experiences I have had with my manager. I am wondering if these are red flags or if I am maybe being paranoid or thinking too much.

It was quite difficult for me to get into this company and this job. The company is quite great and I was quite excited but some of the experiences I have had with my immediate manager have made me a bit apprehensive.
I would like to share them and hear opinions about it.

Here are some things which have happened which I have not liked so far - 

1. I speak to a Senior Engineer one day and next day my manager asks me if anyone asked me to speak to him. 
2. I shared an insight about a new tool which we can use on a deployment pipeline on the overall pod (under my skip manager). My manager immediately called me and started asking my status update and replied 'Discussing 1-1' in the group to prevent anyone getting visibility of the idea. 
3. My manager pings me whenever I go offline and recently he asked me in a passive aggressive way, 'Please monitor your Teams status. It was away for most of today.' I now feel kind of paranoid to never get up as I feel my Teams status is being monitored.

Is my manager too much of a micromanaging red flag ? I started a new job and my manager monitors my Teams online status.

Yes this is straight up micromanagement and insecurity. 
  
 Just stand up to him man. The more of such things you allow him to do, the more courage he will get and more he will fuck your life.  
  
 Just stand your ground for a few times and he'll understand that you are not the guy he can do this to.

Product Manager

I completed education from tier 1 colleges (MBA and Engineering both from coveted IIM and IIT). After MBA, I joined Wall Street bank and life was really good. Was enjoying the perks of a MNC although the work was also excruciating but was an overall good experience.

Left it for a startup (fast growth kida in me led this decision). Worked in the startup across multiple roles, learned a lot of new things. Tried staying away from office politics and earned a good name in the circle. But growth (read pay) was not that enticing and was not growing hence decided to leave. Was naive enough to quote this reason to business head and HR as well. Obviously it didn't go well with anyone.

Joined startup2, changed cities and joined it. The role was similar, although my manager was an epitome of a toxic manager. Was doing good but he always was able to find some or the other mistake in my work. If he would not find any mistake then he would suggest some tangential hypothesis and then reprimand me for not thinking about it. Was so toxic that I didn't take leave when my wife was hospitalized and giving birth to our child.
Tried doing everything possible but couldn't save the job and got laid off in the 1st lay off wave.

Was shattered. Confidence was at rock bottom. Tried searching for roles. Luckily I got into startup3 who had remote work at that time. Although I joined the marketing team (which was not at all related to my previous work) thus creating a mess of my profile.
Worked hard but in a "restructuring" exercise got laid off again.

Within a year 2 lay offs with random work and no concrete direction in work. 
Now searching for roles but not able to find anything suitable as I was in non-core roles and in this difficult time everyone is looking for cheap resources with 1-3 yoe and not looking for 7+ yoe with generalist profile.

Contemplating starting from zero in Marketing or learning coding/Data science so that can start my career again with right basics.

I fucked up my career

@NaivePoint62 : pls visit careers sites of any company and share with me CV and job ids, I will see if I know anybody there who can refer you.

Senior Product Manager

Growth Manager

I kind of like the job but not my manager. Bcoz of that I am not able to work properly and my performance is also getting affected. What to do? Any ideas

Job or Manager??

Is working on your own startup while in MNC a moonlight case, will it lead to serious blow from your company. Wanted to know the opinion what happens when your manager finds out that you also run a startup.

What are the possibile things you can do to avoid this  ? Any recommendations by anyone . Or any things to be aware of ?

Side Hustle

I work at a small scale startup where I interact daily with the CTO whom I directly report.

Recently, he has been giving tighter deadlines for critical projects at work and is not willing to discuss anything related to the scope or timeline of the projects. He just expects me to finish everything in x number of days without asking for even the slightest estimate of the duration.

This has led to me missing due dates for projects which he later blames on me quoting poor performance during reviews. 

Has anyone encountered such problems before? How did you handle it?

Deadlines without discussion

Product Engineer

I have heard a lot of people suggesting stay on a technical side ,coding side if you don’t want to be laid off and always have a market value . But now I see almost everyone is getting laid off !! 
What are your suggestions?
Choose a career into coding or technical side only or go into other roles like technical functional ,product owner etc.

Engineers Irreplaceable ?

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Just an open ended question on why are layoffs happening on such a scale. I personally feel the skill to salary ratio has fucked up so much lately that the companies are having to fire people who are essentially useless to them. More of liabilities than just assets! What do you think?

Layoffs - who do you blame?

Absolutely agreed. Hiring in hordes because money was easily available earlier and founders/companies thought that they will be able to build more and hence get more value / valuation sooner was the core reason why the skill to salary ratio got f’ed up. And it’s good that it’s being reset now. 
  
 Coming to who to blame for layoffs - no one. It’s pure capitalism - there was money, hence there were jobs. For whatever time people got paid a lot more than they deserved - they should be rather thankful. If they built their life around the assumption that this much money was the new normal, it was their naïveté. Companies got to survive, and they have to do whatever has to be done… as long as it’s ethical. Firing is fine. Not paying salaries / dues is not.

Founding Engineer

Software Lead

Be it about investors, co-founders, hires, freelancers, family, or yourself

Founders, what will you never share publicly about your startup?

I'm seeing so many posts where startup employees are cribbing about things like layoffs, work culture etc etc. Doesn't seem like they have perspective on everything it takes to build a startup. I've built a failed startup myself and have immense respect for founders who are grinding it out there in such difficult recessionary circumstances. 

And then you have so many of the engineers and PMs cribbing about basics without talking about important things like learning growth, building for the future etc. Why such myopia? I work at a big tech and envy the speed at which startups move, the big responsibility everyone gets to handle, the fast career growth. All these things are being cribbed about. They crib about founders wanting more. Their job is to ensure success, not to give lifetime jobs to entitled people. They have more headaches you can imagine. In my small startup I had a million headaches. I can only imagine how hard it must be to run larger ships. Is everyone joining a startup these days looking for a get rich quick scheme?

Why are startup folks so entitled?

If you can’t run a business that lets people have a normal life then you’re the one who thinks they’re entitled to employees. 
 Businesses must take risk, employees don’t. Stop your whining that people won’t support shitty business plans

To be very honest I feel very frustrated looking at the situation right now. Companies are laying off without worrying about the employees. It's just corporate profits everywhere.

I am scared to death that my career won't last long than 20 years because the moment these folks think you are becoming a financial burden on them, they'll lay you off.

I don't want to live my life in a constant war mode. The Indian education system has bruised my personality for a long time. I want to relax but looking at this battlefield I can never.

My weekends are spent worrying about planning for finances in case I get laid off. I am worried I won't be able to buy a house.

This shit is depressing me very much. Other folks please tell me how are you navigating this mess?

Soulless Corporations

Mandatory : keep on up skilling 
 Optional :  go outside India or move to operational roles(as it doesn't need creativity bone)  
  
 In your 30's you shouldn't explore stuff, stick with one domain(example : digital marketer) be the SME. In 40s you'll have 10+ years experience of a domain, and you're part of that domains evolution  
  
 No one wil have the know how you gained in 10 years

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