What’s your reason to stay in India ?
No law Low percent of people paying taxes No good Infra Rise of recent regionalism No tech advancements in AI/Semiconductor Planning to move to US, but at 30 not sure if i can go for MS
Tshirt
Student
5 months ago
My reason: No fcuking companies are sponsoring visas🤡
The only reason to stay in this country. Bhai tatti hai tatti.
Politics (everyone) is corrupt from the ground to the PM and opposition.
No one cares for law and order.
US mei counter stike khelte raho Biden k sath , wallmart sei bandoke kharid k , and agar man kare to kaneda chale Jana khalistanio and Trudeau k sath daaru peene 🤡
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All the big tech companies are moving to India that’s one of the best reason to stay in India. They give 1/3rd TC when compared with USA but cost of living here is 1/5th of USA.
Dude, base comp is what you should consider. That's 1/6 of US. At the same time, cost of living ain't cheap. US public schools and universities - you can actually get into one and their infra and curriculum are pretty decent. We don't get that here atleast in schools and colleges have very limited seating
There are so many other things, tech community there, new gadgets etc is all really great and you can actually afford them better than you would here (take Iphone for example, you don't have to take EMI there to get Iphone)
Also, the number of countries you can visit visa free. The PPP difference, etc
Lol, let me give you an example an L6 in Google gets between 1.5-1.8 Cr on lower side, where as in Austin/Texas this comp is lower in US. Only Seattle, Bay Area, New York, London & Switzerland is on high pay, rest BLR pays more. So India is now not a cheap labour market anymore. Next emerging market is Poland, Romania, Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia etc.
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DiracDelta
Student
5 months ago
Finally someone who understands 😭 🤝
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Pure air,
24 hours running potable water
World class medicine,
Best quality packaged food,
Low chance of getting diabetes,
Lower chances of cancer
Best roads
Best law and order
Minimum taxes
Only India can provide all this opportunity.
RealOldmonk
Stealth
5 months ago
Medicine and toll highway I can agree, its so difficult to get appointments with specialist outside
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Because I'm working in startups and know that the opportunities are just greater in India/Asia currently vs. in the west.
India is also home & family, and I like being here. It all works out.
There are benefits to being in the west, but you can't have everything.
I totally agree with @AlphaGrindset.
And to add to it. I love the food here(even street food) and my friends.
But yes, after few years, I would wanna shift and take my parents with me
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RealOldmonk
Stealth
5 months ago
I can afford a driver, cook and house help. All I need is money in bank and a phone with internet, there are so many services, I can get everything at doorstep, if this is not convenience then I don’t know what it is,
All the things I mentioned above is not doable outside unless you get paid in million+ salary
It's because India have cheap labour.
And in West its not big hassle to go out and buy things. You can easily take out your car, finding a good parking coz of broader roads (even the road reaching your home) . And in india even after paying crores you will end up in slum
Flexing about using convenience from an industry which has risen up on the lines of slavery ? Earning bare minimum just to stay alive and relevant is your flex?
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Better to do MS, earn for 5-7 years, save 1cr-1.5cr and come back to India. I don't want myself fucked up by the mad people holding Contra style guns shooting at me...neither do I want my near and dear to face a hassle of bringing my dead body back to India when I die in a bizarre accident in the US. I am not a pessimistic guy but looking at the shitty political status, US will go to dogs in the next 2 decades. The rampant influx of illegal immigrants will impact the demography. They have shit load of guns ..700mn guns translating to 2 per person. Assume 10% of those guns find a way into these illegal immigrants. We will see a mad Max style civil war
HelloCTO
Stealth
5 months ago
Damn that's messed up.
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For now I've evaluated these things and pros of leaving the country outweigh the cons
Pros in India
1. Food. Man oh man
2. Can take career breaks(took twice to start something of my own)
3. Parents(major reason I stayed till now)
4. Help(maids, cooks, security)
5. People(Can go anywhere and make really good friends)
6. Feeling of belonging here(although feeling going away with rise of regionalism, especially in Blr)
Cons
1. Infra. I have a car and almost never wanna drive in Blr. Be it bad infra, or people competing for the worst driving possible
2. No laws. On personal level, this felt scary and also while starting up, understood how bad the law is when I tried to held someone accountable to the contract
3. Tech(AI/Semiconductor) boom. Although people say Indian has it, if you start something aiming for India, you will understand that pure tech companies won't survive in India. For example, most kind of fintech companies have now shifted to lending
4. Regionalism. Saw so many cases of my friends getting abused by locals especially once the speak hindi
5. Taxes. Why should I even pay tax when I don't get anything in return for ? And when I know majority of the people who benefit doesn't pay Tax
6. Trains. I now stopped taking train to go to my home country
7. Money. Even though things are affordable here, we aim to live with luxury. Friends save more there and thus can spend more on EU trips
FreeThinker
Stealth
5 months ago
Hi. I got fed up with the exact same reasons. Also add the aspect of poor work culture, work politics and emotional management that's so prevalent. I faced terrible work ethics at Dell Technologies before leaving India. Although this company has good culture in other countries in India it's fucked up to work for.
So I made the switch to US 8 months ago. Going through the transition of being a full time MS student after a decade of India work experience. I have completed two semesters so far and looking to graduate by Dec. For the summer months I somehow secured an internship and starting to build a pipeline of full time opportunities. I have a couple of full time option that can potentially click when it's Dec. It's too early to confidently say anything at this point.
I have 12 years of work experience in India.
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Learningmind
Stealth
5 months ago
One and only one reason my parents
You know how many folks are returning after doing masters from US because no one is giving jobs? 😧
Hello Beautiful souls,
Leaving aside all the points, my biggest motivation to stay in Bharat is Im and will always treated as a citizen of this Country. I prefer that rather than being called a second class citizen, resident alien or an immigrant for that matter.
Yes, my country may have issues but Im a part of those issues n their solutions as well.
So yes home is where the heart is and my heart n soul belong to Bharat. I will not trade this off for any materialistic small term benefits.
whackProfessor
Student
5 months ago
Tell this in Bangalore as an outsider 🤡
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RaulG
Stealth
5 months ago
My friends dude their MS at 32. The husband went first and the wife followed. They did 1 year MS. At first we thought they were crazy. But in the long term everything worked out. They're in Amazon and Google. Settled.
So age per se is not a barrier. If you get a chance you should go.
RaulG
Stealth
5 months ago
*did
RaulG
Stealth
5 months ago
You just have to choose a subject that doesn't invalidate your work experience.
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EncryptedName
Student
5 months ago
My reason is simple, I can get kicked out of any foreign country at any time. Nobody can kick me out of my own country.
Why such an exaggeration "no law", "no good infra"? You think US is perfect? How about hate crimes, inaccessibility to health care, Antifa crimes in the US?
After 32 or 33 yeats of age : If you have money and a house in a gated community - pick India. If you are struggling- pick abroad.
Mainly, Fear of losing friends and family.
Also, life in forties and fifties won't be easy. Your children won't take care of you as you do for your parents.
Being a parent, US might have a better education system than India but it can't teach my kid family values and my culture. Education is not everything to be happy in life.
Ironically, people want to migrate to the west who are mostly responsible for where India is today.
Pure air in villages, authentic desi khana, low wait times for healthcare, ample sunlight (vit D), good roads now,parents,fast and cheap internet, UPI, eCommerce and food tech apps for convenience, affordable healthcare.
I've been warned against the recent immigration crisis in US/UK/Canada, so a bit hesitant on going for MS there. I'm in tech and thinking about an MBA in Australia, but not 100% sure about the country and the stream. But staying where I am, I can't imagine a lifestyle transformation here in India after a certain point.
ToughShot
Stealth
5 months ago
Check out the Australia subreddit. You will change your mind.
What exactly am I looking for? The subreddit looks alright superficially.
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Born here will die here (ofcourse might visit other countries for vacation). India is a startup with shit politics, shit compensation, shit protection and shit benefits. Earning money? Yes that's lucrative but everyone's doing that. I just want to help India get to 10T.
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Trump says foreigners who graduate from US colleges should get green cards
In an interview yesterday, Trump said that he'll give green cards to foreign students, especially Indians and Chinese, who graduate from U.S. universities. He believes that if he does not keep these students in the U.S., they will return to their countries and make billions. All I'm concerned about is the future of India. All the highly skilled and intelligent people I know in my circle are trying to get out of this country, mostly due to toxic tax culture, poor infrastructure, and pollution. Now, if Trump starts giving green cards to foreigners, I can bet that the remaining talent will move to the USA (Why remaining? Because most of them are already settled outside). My POV: If our government does not wake up, the future dreams of India, where we assume it will be a major economy, will be ruined.
Republican Presidential frontrunner Donald Trump has promised automatic Green Cards for foreign students graduating from US colleges. Trump ...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indiatoday.in/amp/world/story/donald-trump-on-green-card-graduate-indian-students-immigration-policy-visa-h1b-2556080-2024-06-21
