Share some jobs or function names which are highly overvalued and overpayed?
Mine. I am a DevOps engineer at a fintech startup, I write server configurations for 45L/y and I work about 10 - 20 hours a week, remotely. I keep thinking they’ve figured out how easy my job is and decided to fire me and then instead they tell me I’m doing a great job and promote me 🤌🏻
Falana_dimkhana
Stealth
a year ago
Then I think you are doing a support role. DevOps is not just making server config,it's far beyond that.
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In my opinion, there are seldom any roles that are highly overvalued.
However, I would fathom that any role that is multiple layers of separation away from execution is going to be what most people allude it to.
For example:
Product Management, is abstract in nature and the output isn't very tangible. Thus, people not intimate with their work will likely. yield to overvalued connotation.
Similarly, Management Consulting suffers from this as well. With the addition of high consulting fees and intangibility, it is perhaps the classic example of a perceived overvalued job.
This also applies to fields with significant complexity.
Think of jobs like Investment Banking, Quantitative Analysts, Data Science etc.
Since they deal with complex data and subject matter. Their work may not be easily understood by those outside their field, leading to perceptions of overvaluation.
Roasted
Student
a year ago
Though I don't have experience but I agree with this, PMs are at times literally treated like assistants and have to do roles of other people because their value is not respected lol. The fact that they have to take shit from people who keep saying they are useless and the added fact that their outputs aren't tangible makes me feel bad for PMs
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Management consultants.
Also, engineering managers who don't contribute technically.
Interestingly, all functions from engineering to PM to consulting are covered in this thread 😂
Toh bhai kaam karta kaun hai? CEO? Or Coooooo? 😂
It’s data scientist for me. Insane pay, and most of the ds folks I’ve worked with end up delivering little value.
Greenie
Student
a year ago
What's the post range in terms of work ex?
Still paid less or equal to backend SDEs. Half of which also deliver no value
Copywriting as a job in 2023. Engineering Managers that just do people management. Data Science who have very little shipping to production or impact. Product Managers that only do Program Management
ProfessionalCurser
Stealth
a year ago
Copywriting is overpaid? You’ve never had multiple teams on your back for urgent, random, nonsensical writing requests that you spend hours on and write multiple iterations of only to be told “its just one line what’s the big deal” 😢
Copywriting is overpaid when you compare with chatgpt. It is far better and superior. Hurts sentiments but sad.
ErlichBachmann
Stealth
a year ago
Glorified ops and program management roles in form of founders staff, ceo office
Product - overpaid as fuck
Get paid shitloads for making half baked google docs and shipping it to developers who make a stupid ass products.
These fuckers then retain their jobs by doing version updates for the half baked shit that they push out in the world.
I am surprised other Razors have a similiar opinion like me lol. Whenever we request a feature for Ops team, the PMs really dont care about our ease of use , productivity and shipping good quality products. They mostly refuse our requests. If they are not saying yes to everyone, the million dollar question is, what exactly they are doing 🤔
I was talking about PMs in general. Ours toh anyway get paid to be on that cricket group.
Legal counsels, auditors, risk management consultants. I would probably describe their jobs as “vastly overpaid in normal circumstances and vastly underpaid in emergency situations.”
JakerPiannomer
Stealth
a year ago
Vp of HR, HR head or whatever the final HR boss is in an organisation. I really don't know what they do except for giving speech at company parties...
I disagree. I've known HRBPs who do their job pretty well that I don't consider them overvalued.
furious
Stealth
a year ago
HRs. Amen.
JackRod
Stealth
a year ago
Directors and Managers in India unit of US product companies
avarava
Stealth
a year ago
Chief Engagement Officer....whatever the F that means
AITookMyJobToo
Stealth
a year ago
Do they look after office couples?
Badbunny
Stealth
a year ago
Hahahaha
Qwerty2398
Stealth
a year ago
HR. They should be paid two meals a day. Beyond that, they are overpaid .
AITookMyJobToo
Stealth
a year ago
Phone bill afford kaise karenge
furious
Stealth
a year ago
Truer words were never said.
DirtyDot5
Stealth
a year ago
Management consultants.. they mostly get paid to talk gyaan which customers already know. Most of the time they get hired only to put their stamp/approval on projects or ideas that already exist. Have hardly seen them being any new insights or information that is actionable.
Badbunny
Stealth
a year ago
Then you haven’t given your problem statement to the consultant properly my friend 🙂
DirtyDot5
Stealth
a year ago
@Badbunny 🤣
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Badbunny
Stealth
a year ago
Oh please, tell me why???? Will you sit and make so many flows ?? My frand
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