AMA - 6 years in PM + 5 years Analytics

I rode 2 waves, analytics & PM Am skilled at interviews and negotiations, akin to a seasoned salesperson. I am relentless even when I fail at a lot of interviews. I just don't give up. I have learnt to enjoy interview games. Unable to disclose specific company details. The progress noted within the same company is marked by a salary increase. Each time a company was switched, it's presented as a new row. Career Progression (with Annual Salaries in LPA): Company 1: 3 LPA Company 2: 5.5 LPA Company 3: Started at 5.5 LPA, progressed to 8 LPA Company 4: 13 LPA Company 5: Started at 16.5 LPA, progressed to 24 LPA Moved abroad Returned to India Received multiple job offers Successfully negotiated a strong salary for the Indian market Company 7: 54 LPA Company 8: Started at 48 LPA, progressed to 67 LPA I think the trick is to think of yourself as a one person company & be ready for non-linear revenue patterns Notice how I was able to take salary cuts / move at same salary for long term play (read better job prospects in terms of money) Many people can't take such trade-offs That's made a lot of difference in my game play as compared to peers from similar backgrounds

Appreciate your openness. One concern I have does, changing companies too frequently impacts your leadership opportunity down the line? 8 companies in (11-12years), is this the only way to grow?

I don't know As I said, my career happened to me My salary is decent, it's enough, it's probably lesser than a lot of people I know in engineering side with my level of sales talent So please don't think of me as an outlier I think money we will make in tech, the bigger issue is having good health (physical and mental) If there's one thing I can suggest: Focus on building muscles - physical as well as mental through workouts , stretch, food habits, meditation, affirmations, healthy sex life, everything enjoy your body & hone it it's a beautiful tool

I don't operate by interest I work to pay my bills while keeping work life balance in tact and being ethical I'd probably learn to professionaly dance 10 years from now if that's a decent way to make money Am just a businessman

Since i am pretty new mentioned as interest understood your answer.!!

Finally someone said it!

Why do we not discuss this unneeded negativity by this guy who has little to add on the product management craft itself You don't want it Fine! Why do you have discourage those of us who are actually liking this job

None I just want to get paid good money with good work life balance and long term job security All work is meditation if you can convince yourself of it

This is the way 🙌

Read the other answer on salary please It has good pointers

Thank you for them, I was able to see most pointers related to how to improve interview skills, can I check for negotiation ones?

It's a General Management role that's niche All niche GM roles suffer a similar fate & have similar advantages and disadvantages All such top of pyramid roles will be a headache in one way or the other they also can be good value add or a hindrance in many good teams, depends on how the PM fits the context

PM equivalent to Genman, wow 😂

Wdym I operate on an alt & haven't spoken on twitter spaces

You can't fool us man😭😭. It's a small world. Ikwim.

Most value is in engineering career, then PM, them Data Science, then Analytics etc. In long term it depends on how your profile compares against similar people vying for that top of pyramid position The better your relative candidature, the better your growth path

I should've known meditation+ exercise+ food to manage high cortisol + adrenaline (stress) Yes I get assignments/ case studies Idk am just living one quarter at a time, trying to deeply learn how decision making happens in groups of people + trying to build simple apps as POC hopefully if something works out, will try to get seed funding not building in public, not a fan of it

Product managemer?

PM job search is tougher simply because for every 100 new positions in the industry only 10 are PMs Even worse at SPM director and beyond Which means branding will get you your interview shortlist So please focus on being in companies with good brand-names Your recent brandname is super important in shortlisting

Analytics pays way less than backend I've transitioned QA folks to analytics in 4 months of training Analytics is a shallow skill as compared to backend Don't pursue it if you are smart enough to be a developer

I am getting 12lpa over here

I have worked with him briefly at my current org, but am not him 😂 Also hopefully, am not as cringe as him He is decent and all, but tbh, he is not truly a PM He should move over to his developer thing & spare us his gyaan on why-not-to-be-a-PM it's discouraging for some of us iykwim 😂

I started in Analytics back in 2012 I don't know how this works now

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I thought u are amul. Exe U both have same career trajectories

So many discords pramp and similar websites

Very contextual to your industry & what your leaders want

If you are smart enough move to dev it's much easier to make X LPA as a dev than as a PM reason 100 new positions in tech: 75 Devs 5 to 10 PMs rest designers, analytics etc. So you'll always have so many interview calls If you are good at cracking them, you'll make crazy negotiation 4 years experience folks with a good mind can make 50 lpa in dev Hardly any PM does that

Which college man

XLRI