GrowthX , Not a scam, but genuine, edtech. Has good success rate

Have you been benefitted from the course ? I took the initial screening but eventually didn’t opt for it . It just felt like a case study project . Can’t really tell a 60. Day course would actually help you land in a job role or not

Product Manager

Heard great things about the community, plus their content is nice. Not sure about the course.

Software Engineer

people start startup/business to make money only

But the question is: which startups are making money ethically in this space? 
  
 Just because you want to make money, doesn't justify Byju-like practices.

Senior Software Engineer

Eruditus/Emeritus. Will always been an advocate for them

courses with top notch partner universities in the world. Refund in case of anything which is not delivered but promised. Speaking from experience. Had the opportunity to learn with top tier- VPs, CXOs in one of the courses I did.

Project Manager

Then ofcourse Duolingo , Kahoot are some well known great edtechs in the world to name

Doubtnut seems to be one , previously I loved what Troppr was doing until Byjus bought it and screwed over

Cuemath… bit pricey, but the product is good on my opinion..

Allen has been doing well with focus on learning outcomes instead of sales.

Analytics Manager

You know the stereotypical Edtech startup  salesdriven, promises good placements, no quality control, overpriced AF.  Is there any company who's actually focusing on building something valuable in ...

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You know the stereotypical Edtech startup - sales-driven, promises good placements, no quality control, overpriced AF.

Is there any company who's actually focusing on building something valuable in this space?

Are there any 'ethical' Edtech startups in India?

Are there any 'ethical' Edtech startups in India?- Grapevine

Most edtechs have been infamous for mis-selling, poor teaching , etc but are there any good startups who are doing great work?

Any good Edtechs worth joining?

Most Edtech startups seem to be providing very little value, and are pure sales machines. Learning is super important, and I’m beginning to realise I’ve not done any structured online learning in the longest times (Coursera early days, Bucky Roberts on YouTube etc.)

Wanted to know if any of you have tried out online courses somewhere and have had a genuinely good learning experience?

Has anybody here had a positive Edtech experience?

Corporate Strategist

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Edtech is dead, agreed. But we haven't reached the quality of output which is expected from education in India. We don't have quality outputs, most youngsters are unemployed and this change has to start from education. 

Byju, UA or Vedantu are the highest valued edtechs but they are not the face of what an education company should be like in a country like India. Let's leave them to the karma of their shortcomings and cheating. 

On a serious note trying to understand how we can use amalgamation of tech and education to get the desired result.

Things you would change about edtech!

Product Owner

Graphy has forced a 30% salary cut on each employee to achieve profitability this year. This cut will be applicable from February onwards until 7-8 months. 

Truly a sad time for the Edtech ecosystem.

30% Salary Cuts at Unacademy

I repeat: 
  
 If you have options, avoid joining EdTech companies. 
  
 If you're already working for one, exit at first opportunity. 
  
 Indian EdTech companies are largely sweat shops in fancy office buildings.

Growth And Strategy

Program Manager

I was previously working in a startup in a software/IT role. Now, after 3 months of searching for a job, I got an interview from an ed-learning startup in Bengaluru for a business development role. 

Please give me your takes on this. What would be the pros and cons of taking up this job?

How are ed-learning startups for work?

Was interviewing at one of the acquisitions of a major edtech player for a design role in Bangalore roughly 2 years ago.

🚩 Didn't share agreement on email unless I came to office for a day's worth of work (after completing interview assignment).

🚩 Exit clause in agreement mentioned company can terminate contract any time with a few days notice, no provision for me ending contract (never in my life did I see such a one-sided contract).

🚩 Was asked to reuse free resources available online to repurpose content for them (why fucking raise funds if that's all you want to do).

🚩 Overheard - "Who cares about quality, just bring in teachers who are influencers that can bring more students behind them". Boiled my blood.

🚩 Was tweeting all of this in a discussion about edtech on some thread without naming the company. Got asked to chat with founder's office guy while I was leaving at the end of day. They either stalked my socials or somehow came across my tweets and wanted me to bring my concerns to seniors instead of sharing them publicly. Excuses that were given - "We are a growing company, not everyone here is on our payroll, there's a mismatch in our teams internally, will take time to fix" etc etc.

"You seem very passionate about education, you know how bad it is in India and we're trying our best to make a dent". Balls making a dent. I was even more furious by the time he was done talking.

Politely asked me to delete the tweets (which I later did because I believe in second chances and not burning bridges).

Did not sign agreement or return to work. Came to know later of more toxic stories coming out of edtech companies.

Avoid edtech in India like the plague if you're still considering applying anywhere, this shit is not worth any amount of money. They are literally destroying our future and care more about their investors and VCs rather than their students or even the larger startup ecosystem.

I hope these shitshows shut down soon.

Indian Edtech is a dumpster fire

Generalist

This will be taken down from reddit by mass reporting in some time. So sharing it here before that. Ps: not my post

🚨 EdTech scam

Investor

What are problems with edTech startups in general?

Founder

Apart from placement assistance/guarantee, what exactly is something that EdTech companies in the upskilling/higher education space (Scaler, UpGrad, etc.) solving that can’t be solved by free material available?

P.S. Not a rant. I’m genuinely trying to understand what drives people to pay such hefty amounts to these EdTech companies. Maybe someone in the industry can help with this.

EdTech USPs

I'm tired of people calling everything in edtech a scam, of course the companies don't help themselves by their bs marketing and unattainable placement claims and other bullshit

But I'm genuinely curious as to what grapers/ grapies / viners find to be not a scam in edtech ?

If everything in edtech is a scam, what is not ?

Computer Operator

Is it a good company? Are their courses actually valuable? 
Think they have been primarily B2B but not completely sure who the buyers here are

A relatively silent EdTech unicorn & journey - anybody knows more about Eruditus?

Do you think that most of the edtechs for College students and professionals just dump a ton of web developers, who have also crammed up DSA. 

Once, a Scaler sales person called me and we talked for almost an hour. I said that I'm already working in a product company and was making a decent (decent only, not in par with the usual SDE salaries in tier 1 tech companies). 

He still wanted me to sign up 😂
I said that, I'm willing to sign up only if they have a detailed course on a topic (development using Java, and Kotlin).

He said that they do web development only because it's a vetted curriculum and easy to learn and get a job. 

I asked why do they charge a ton of money while they've made the curriculum public, and the response was that it's for the faculties and the mentors available. 

It doesn't make sense to me, as we can connect easily with most of the people from any of the companies (and usually a good number of people are just waiting for someone to reach out to them). 

Where will this end? A ton of web developers who are just there because of the salary?

Some says that India is not yet home to good deep tech companies, and I believe that this is the reason for the same. 

I strongly feel that a good number of the software developers are just there because they got into it without exploring further options, and because of the pay (not everyone)

Edtech - Controversial Topic

Was interviewing a lady for augmenting specific skills I need at a project I am currently running.

I asked her for details on where she was working at, and her answer verbatim:

"Waise to ye coaching class hai but owner isko Ed Tech bulaate hai."

Truth Bomb on Indian EdTech

Sales Manager

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The camp in my opinion is not what it claims to be. People who are doing well in the camp are the ones who took matters in their own hand and started learning on their own.

Pros:

1. Practice sets were given often(There were 27 practice sets of all topics) which helped us form the practice for writing code for hooks without wasting time in thinking about the approach.

2. Community is good. MA’s are very helpful and will guide you in every situation. Taking the time out of their busy schedule. Very thankful to them.

3. Machine coding rounds were conducted. Which helped us speed up the process. 

4. Revision sessions were conducted for people who couldn’t understand the lecture taken by Tanay. These sessions were taken by Akanksha.

Cons:

1. Redux was removed from course even though it is mentioned on the website. They say that redux is not important but it is, companies ideally want their candidates to know redux.

2. Tanay simply skims through a topic, does not go in depth inside any topic. An advice which he ironically gives in his youtube videos. He ignores any advanced questions asked in the session claiming he has not covered yet. Says he will teach later and does not cover that topic later.

3. We were forbidden to discuss anything that isn’t taught yet.Stopping the flow of knowledge. That means you can’t even use the community to discuss something new because they haven’t taught it yet.

4. MA’s(Ex-neoGrads) were discouraged from answering questions about topics that weren’t taught yet. They used to host sessions on hard topics that people didn’t understand in voice chats but were discouraged to do so.

5. Didn’t even cover the dependency array in useEffect hook. He just said you will keep it empty 90% of the time. useMemo and useCallback were not even mentioned. Forget about code optimizations. Honestly, you will learn more in a 30min youtube video than in their class.

Continued in comments......

Reality of neoG bootcamp

I joined Neog hoping to learn Advanced Full stack but LOL this whole bootcamp is a scam. They are only focussed on earning money. A simple 500rs Udemy course will teach you more than this Channa mereya drama. There has been 0 percent addition in my knowledge after joining NEOG because I already know basics I wanted to learn Advanced things. 
  
 1) No Lectures on memo and callback 
 2) No Redux 
 3) DSA lol (mentioned on the website) 
 4) Backend LMAO ( mentioned on the websit) 
 5) Industry Standard Coding - why is it even mentioned on the website. 
  
  
 I have no problem with Neog Do whatever you want. But please don't lie about your course. Just Mention it on your website that you will only teach basics. I regret that hard-earned money of my parents is wasted.

Frontend Engineer

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I have been on this journey for a long time now. Lots of failure comes with loads of learning. Each step or initiative I took has helped me grow as a person, the business guy (ed-tech, media space), and also in terms of technicalities (full-stack product management, hardcore hands-on into technology and I love user experience)

Ps: currently running an edtech startup in pre-seed/seed stage

Feel free to ask anything, would be happy to help even personally

5 years of failure (Entrepreneurship) AMA

Upskilling edtech startups rn

As the title says. Have worked close to 10 years now in 
this industry. Can answer on how sales, marketing and operations work here. Never had visibility on funding etc but have seen the ill effects of toxic VC money

AMA about Edtechs

I've been curious about whether there are any good Indian startups in the AI field that are not building "tools" like meeting summary or anything of that sort. But more like research based such as OpenAI, Anthropic, Midjourney, etc.
They could be early stage or late stage, doesn't matter. Have you guys seen any around you with potential?

Any good Indian AI startups?

I’m really curious to know what exactly the Marketing Team does cause in the previous two organisations that I worked at , The Marketing Dept was kinda meh. So I wanted to know if it’s the case everywhere or does an actual good Marketing Team exist as the ones I’ve interacted with their lead generation and marketing was trash.

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