I see lot of comments on Reddit that Indian PMs are just “talkers” (eg. https://www.reddit.com/r/ProductManagement/s/c0Yc2FgGY6 ). Makes we wonder if Indians actually ship great products. What are ...

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I see lot of comments on Reddit that Indian PMs are just “talkers” (eg. https://www.reddit.com/r/ProductManagement/s/c0Yc2FgGY6 ). Makes we wonder if Indians actually ship great products.
What are great products - either India-based startups, international MNCs etc - driven out of India?

Great products driven out of India?

Great products driven out of India?- Grapevine

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I might sound stupid here but please hear me out. 
The market is crowded with so many startups in every domain. Older startups are much more stable, on track to become profitable or are already profitable with a huge market share. Not to forget the legacy companies with deep pockets and years of R&D and experience. Along with the competition, funding is another major pain point now because of various reasons we all know of. 
Also, somewhere I feel we don't face a lot of burning problems we faced a few years back which gave birth to a lot of startups who were actually solving some problem. Most of the new age startups out there are not really solving any problem but just offering premium products or services targeting just the high earning individuals. Most of the new ideas are repetitive with no major differentiation or value add. 
Because of all these reasons, I feel we might see very few new startups in future let alone successful ones. 

Share your thoughts please!

What's the future of start-ups and start-up ideas?

Analyst

What companies in India including bigger orgs plus startups have the good product culture.

Companies with best product team

Associate Product Manager

Would you rather be an Engineer learning how to Product or a Product Manager learning how to Engineer?

Answer is obvious mate. And it's already in motion. 
 Everyone knows current product management breed is a messed up fraudulent bunch. They will run into poverty if they don't change ways🙂

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Product Manager

Hi all,
What are some of the Big Tech companies who have *core* global product teams based out of India? Most roles I can find are for charters that are backend internal systems / non-core product streams / customizations for APAC or India. This is understandable since US alongside being their HQ, is also their largest market commercially by far. But was curious to see if there are any teams within Big Tech that are bucking that trend, and are building core products from India offices too.

Not restricted to FAANG but to Big Tech at large, including Walmart, Target, Stripe, Uber, Adobe etc.

Big Tech based out of India

Investor

Why India does not have technology-based product companies and why early companies like TCS, Infosys etc did not focus on the product.

India lacks technology companies.

Software Engineer

Which are the Indian startups (early/growth/maturity stage) or foreign startups with Indian offices that have good product culture with well-defined processes?

Indian startups with really good product culture

What are some of the best product based/product led companies to work for in India? Could include MnCs as well as startups. Mostly the factor would be - how much leverage does product team have

Best Product Companies to work for right now

How would you compare India-based product roles at MNCs (like Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Walmart, Uber) with PM opportunities at India-based tech startups (Flipkart, Inmobi, Zomato, Swiggy, Ola)?

What are the gives and gets?

PM at MNCs vs Indian startups?

what would some best product based startups for an APM/PM-1 role? A company which has great product culture.

what are some best product based startups based out of NCR region?

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Do we’ve Indian companies building something similar?

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Too much negativity all around haha, let's share which product companies you like the most wrt culture etc and whom are building products with great potential?

Which Product Company based out of India is doing great?

Hey everyone, excited to be doing this AMA!

A brief about me, I work currently as a Director of Product at an Indian unicorn startup 

About my career: 
- Did my undergrad from IIT and then masters from an Ivy league school
- Have been in product for almost 10 years now - across 2 Indian unicorn startups and a publicly listed company

Would love to take questions on what it means to be a PM, growing within the role, building your career, and other things :) 

Will be back here at 4 pm and start replying
Shoot away!

AMA 🎙️: Hey all, I am pmsprint, Director of Product Management at a Unicorn in India!

Let's ignore what's wrong with startups, keep this an optimistic thread. Which startups make you excited about their future? 
The ones that have cracked product, GTM, model, or something else.

Name the best Indian startups :)

One for the believers: Which startups in India do you feel are going to make it really big? 🚀

Corporate Strategist

There are lots of videos and blogs from US PMs, but nothing from Indian PMs. What am I missing?

How to know about Product Management in India?

In your opinion, which companies in your opinion have one of the best product management culture in India? Why do you think so? You may name your current company too.

Companies with best PM culture

For me it was always startups and now looking at the landscape I think it’s very hard. For 8 years, I just wasted my time.

Anything I am building is failing. Couldn’t raise any funds, non of my products reached mass market or gain enough profits. Have skills but non to utilise on!

Indian B2C is extremely hard, and even though people think Saas is great, bad news guys, Indian business rather use excel than pay for jira. There is a saying now - “Easier to earn a dollar than a rupee”.

Have meet so many founders and VCs. Most of them lost touch of reality. Either moved to US or on leave from their own startups.

Only think I know is going through a complete mental breakdown and no one to look up to. My gf left last year, can’t even get any jobs in this market neither can build something useful.

What gives your life meaning ?

Founder

I know Grapevine is full of young and ambitious people that either planning to get into Product or are already working as a PM. I don’t aim to discourage any of you. Moreover, if you need tips to break into Product I would be happy to help you.

I personally feel that knowing what you are doing is going to doom is better than normalizing it.

So I will convey my experience in simple words, how I hated every single day of it, why did I still stick around for 4 years, why product decisions are random political bullshit, why you should not let anything that happens get under your skin and affect your morale. Finally, few words for sociopathic Head of Products.

Lesson #1: Go through all stages of grief at once. Accept that product culture is broken and accept that it will not get better. Finally, you can’t fix it or improve it.

Lesson #2: Ratings are political bullshit. 
I can tell you the years I was rated worse I was probably working harder and better at my job. It just depends on the results you get in the last month before ratings and whether your DOP is vocal for you.

Lesson #3: Last piece of advice: do not let your Product years lower your self esteem or sense of self worth.

Also, some words for sociopathic Head of Products. F’ you.

You Must Get Out - My Experience of 4 Years In Product

Heavily second this. I’m a tech focus generalist who stumbled upon PMing after multiple startup exits. Absolutely bonkers role with no role definition, metric ownership, impact driving. Anyone who disagrees, is lying to themselves. What I can define PM in Indian / many valley based companies with Indian founders -> glorified bhains charane wala.

its advertised as minj CEO role but what is the reality?

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