Best way to become a PM is via internal transition to a product role I recommend it to anyone who wants to get into pm. No downside only upside plus you can always move back to prior role if you realise pm is not what you thought.

Product Head

It's very tough.... With lot of gaga around PM, many folks want to become PM. But the supply is way higher then demand

Product Manager

Learning PMing from prep books is almost like learning swimming from YouTube.

Share your experience. Is it as simple as slogging the PM prep books, taking mocks, etc? With the influx if so many candidates from cohort based courses, how easy or hard is it?

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How hard is it to get a PM job?

How hard is it to get a PM job?- Grapevine

Is it possible to land a PM job in the current market if I have 2 months and aggressively look for jobs.

By Aggressively I mean, not just easy apply on Linkedin or even rather any org’s job board but actively sending cold emails/dms to founders, product heads and hiring managers and also trying to utilise professional connections. 

PM with overall 5 years of experience across Product (3 years), Marketing and Strategy/Business.

How hard is it?

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Note - I am a product manager too

4 out of 5 product managers will act all high and mighty of themselves, bragging their way as if they run everything going on in the company, flaunting their business degrees and being utterly disrespectful towards their team( dev design qa name it), 

Recently started going to office so the attitude I am seeing is very transparent and more visible (more with the higher experience folks)

It makes me wanna leave this hyper inflated role, thinking of I will end up like them scares me, and you have to do is speak out jargons in meetings day in day out and have a English accent of Shashi Tharoor.

Recently my manager told that this is a role where you have to very representable or very visible and act in floor as if you are the busiest person on earth and I seriously some PMs in company doing that, they walk so fast in floor as if they will fall off or would be better to have 4 legs.

I am done with this product management shit

Recently my company posted an opening for a PM job (5+yoe) on LinkedIn and i got final year engineering students from Tier 1/2/3 institutions in my DM asking for a referral for the job. 
I was like wtf at least first get 2-3 year of  any corporate experience and then think about moving to PM role. Why are freshers preparing for PM job out of a sudden

Why is there a sudden rise in craze for PM job

I'm interviewing for a PM role at Flipkart. 

Done with 3 rounds and was told there at 3 more rounds? I think that's unusually high. 

What's the avg salary for PM at Flipkart? 

I'm interviewing for PM 1 but ideally would want a PM 2 role. 

Exp: 
2 years as PM post MBA (tier 1)
2 years as Android dev and 8 months as PM pre MBA

Flipkart PM interview and salary

PM with 5 years of experience, AMA

I am a 3rd year student from tier -3 private college, pursuing btech  is it possible to get PM roles just after under graduation, have seen people from tier -1/2 pursuing vague branches like coal mineral sort of engineering and still be able to crack roles as a PM at tech companies . Also one should aim for a role like this after undergrad or just it demands more exp? Also any roadmap you would recommend

PM role after Undergrad ?

No, I'm not talking about the job market. That's dog shit -- barely any vacancies, and engineers earn 25%ish more. 

However, in a world with 10x better Co-Pilots and other GenAI tools, problem identification is going to be every employee's moat. 'Tech-Enabled' Business PMs will have the brightest futures. There's already a rise in PM-led vs Eng-led startups. This will become clearer 5-10 years down the line.

Also, supply-demand is not as skewed as you think. Everyone thinks this job is easy, and hence, a bunch of folks are aspiring PMs on LinkedIn. I believe quality PMs are still rare (personally have a long way to go).

Would love to hear more. I'm young in my career and maybe naive but this is what I feel.

Unpopular Opinion: It's a great time to be a PM

1. High pressure on timelines- business and top management shits on you if you don’t deliver on time
2. No power to control the outcome- engineers don’t listen to you neither does the design or analytics team, you end up begging for resources
3. Too much politics- business or a senior PM can steal your bandwidth anytime
4. Lack of recognition- if it succeeds business did it, if it fails it is product teams fault (engg never gets blamed for shit)

I believe Product Management is a really toxic role

-How did you land your 1st PM Job (referral, placement, LinkedIn, carrers, connections/network.......or any other crazy story)
-What were you doing before becoming PM (If fresher please let us know)
-Skillset that helped you break into this field
-Current salary/Joining salary (If it's CTC, then what is the breakdown)
-YOE Now, YOE before joining as PM
-Education qualification while joining as PM
-Your definition of a PM
-Anything that you would like to add

1st PM Job

Hi guys,

I am a senior frontend dev (lead) with 8 years of experience. Just have a BCA degree from 3 tier college.

After years of staring at screen constantly for good 10+hrs, i want to make a move to Non Tech role like PM or Engg Manager Role.
Help with what all options do I have to make a switch- 
1- MBA from Normal xyz college will give a low yield
2- MBA from Ivy league will take time to crack and complete.
3- PMP course just for the sake of it
4- Pmp course from ISB or Keylogg to actually learn it
Currently 33 age, ctc 36lpa fixed.
Also, will I be able to get similiar ctc ?

Switch From Tech Lead Frontend dev to Pm Role

Technical Lead

AMA: PM with 3.5 YoE , 40L TC , Tier 2 BTech

Senior Product Manager

How to switch from SWE to PM? Do you need to study any course ?

How to become a PM?

Software Engineer

What were some of the trickiest/toughest cases you've been asked in interviews and by which firm?
I'm a 22 grad and wanted to get an idea regarding the spectrum of difficulty in interviews since most of mine have been pretty straightforward (guesstimate/ product design / metrics, etc)

Failed PM interviews

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I want to quit my job and take a break. 

I Have been contemplating to do the same for almost an year but decided not to do it. So many things have happened since then

1. Layoff wave started in india
2. Got married
3. Had to move back to bangalore from hometown

Reason I want to quit is I don't feel like working , feeling bored and work doesn't interest me that much. 

I want to take a break chill for a bit but don't have guts to do the same considering market conditions ( what if I don't get a job when I am back in the market😅) 

Please give any advice on how to tackle this situation or if someone has gone through the same, would love to hear your experience. 

Also how is the product hiring currently in India? 

PS:  I do have a good runway for 4-5 months considering all expenses but I am scared to take the step

How is the market currently for product managers?

Test Engineer

What is the future scope of the PM job role...will it still be relevant after 10 years, Is going to IIMs spending close to 25 lakhs in this economy to get into a PM job role justified??
Context: I know many people will say you don't need IIM to break into PM, But considering I'm a 25 Male, from tier 3 college...currently working as a product designer with 8 lpa...so I think the only way to reach 25-30 lpa in hand by 28 is by joining IIMs

Is getting into IIM to get into PM role justified?

Hello! I am an entrepreneur who has 4+ years of relevant experience as a business analyst and of Product Manager. I am looking for a PM opportunity, as I could not scale my venture.

My experience was majorly focused in the growth domain with e-commerce and SaaS projects. I have completed a couple of PM courses to brush up my knowledge.

I have applied for 200+ companies in the past month, but did not hear back from anyone.

Kindly share any advice so I can upskill myself more effectively. 
Also please share some insights on how I can get referrals from my network.

PM - Skill enhancement/ Career growth

Does anyone else feel like the PM interview process is easily scammable? I feel like 80% of it is a vibe check and 20% is the actual content itself.
Am a PM with 3 YoE and have been interviewing around recently. I have 0 preparation for any interview I walk into and have gotten offers from multiple startups. (Not bragging, I'm a good talker)
You need to just break down any questions into understandable parts and explain it well enough.
Maybe it's imposter syndrome or maybe I'm a little disillusioned with my job.

TC : 
31 base
4 performance bonus
10 ESOPs

The PM interview is broken

I have 2.5 years of experience working as AI Engineer across 3 product based startups. Have worked on 3 distinct products/features. Interested in role of a PM,  and considering to switch. Is it a good time to switch? Will be joining a cohort, reading a few books, case studies, network to learn about PM and interview prep. My current CTC is 14.5LPA,  will I have to take a pay cut if I start as PM? How difficult will the transition be?

Transitioning to PM

Machine Learning Engineer

Sharing some reflections on this:

1. Product is not a function with a large hierarchy / multiple levels in the ladder. Managerial responsibility comes in very late in the product career and the spans are typically small (relative to other functions like engineering, sales, operations). This also means a steeper funnel to the top and only a handful VP Product roles in the industry.

2. Product is centered around technology and digital consumer trends, both of which are fast changing. This requires constant unlearning and relearning. But more critically, this also means that previous knowledge/experience hits a plateau on marginal value beyond a basic threshold (where you have developed some essential product semse and skills).

3. Product managers are also much higher-paid vs other functional peers, at comparable years of experience. This means that a PM gets to a very high salary (say, 1+ crore) by the age of 40 (15-20y into their career). Tech functions in non-tech companies (like FMCG, banking) cannot offer that kind of pay, meaning salary growth beyond a point is limited to tech-first companies / limiting addressable market for lateral moves.

All of these considererd, how should PMs think about the longevity of their careers? Unlike traditional roles, this does not seem like a "retire at 60" job. What would be the realistic age one should plan for, at which career growth and salary growth will stagnate? What are ways in which a 80%ile PM can extend their career (eg: also taking up engineering management or P&L responsibility or growth function etc., to increase scope)?

PS: this post is not for the top 5-10% PMs. They will always find roles at VP level etc, this is for the 50-90%ile bucket of PM talent.

Longevity of a product career

Will commend you on a very well written and well articulated post. 
  
 Options for the future will be apparent at ~40.  Most peak roles will be achieved between 45-50. 
  
 Possible exits: 
  
 1. Running Category roles at companies which have a broad canvas, multiple product categories. 
 2. Deputing for and eventually running a P&L or a LoB. 
 3. Sales or more critically Customer Success.  Don't shy away from revenue responsibilities. 
  
 Engineering is a sharp left turn imo.  It's not an overlapping skillset at best and don't see how that is part of a PMs likely roadmap.

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