Hi, I am curious, about what attracts you to the PM role. Even I was thinking of switching to a PM role, at a later stage in my career. I have currently 1.8 years of experience with UX Design and 10 months in UI dev. But I was thinking it's too less of an experience to be PM

UX/UI Designer

I feel I am just bored of Designing as a job. I was looking for steps to land an APM role in the startups without an MBA ;;

I feel I am just bored of Designing as a job. I was looking for steps to land an APM role in the startups without an MBA ;-;

I have 2YOE in B2B SASS. But, I want to switch to PM roles

I have 2YOE in B2B SASS. But, I want to switch to PM roles- Grapevine

Welcome to Product Managers's Private Community

Hey everyone, excited to be doing this AMA!

A brief about me, I work currently as a Director of Product at an Indian unicorn startup 

About my career: 
- Did my undergrad from IIT and then masters from an Ivy league school
- Have been in product for almost 10 years now - across 2 Indian unicorn startups and a publicly listed company

Would love to take questions on what it means to be a PM, growing within the role, building your career, and other things :) 

Will be back here at 4 pm and start replying
Shoot away!

AMA 🎙️: Hey all, I am pmsprint, Director of Product Management at a Unicorn in India!

Product Manager

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I have switched job from tech role to strategy role at a reputed company after 6 years of working. 

Any me anything.

Tech to non tech role switch- AMA

Program Manager

So I started PMing a year back, 25y atm. Joined as APM right out of college. Sometimes I feel I should've done some adjacent role which would could've helped me in understanding how the industry works. Most of the times I work on feature mindlessly.

Many times lead engineers directly come to me for ticket requirements, all though i can deal with them, from time to time i feel like an imposter.

Anyone else feel like they got into PM too early?

Software Developer

looking out for transitioning from SDE to PM but not able to get offers. Any suggestions ? YOE - 2

Transitioning from SDE to PM

Software Engineer

This is not a question for the cocky new grad in the overvalued startup, but for the few seasoned PMs that still reply out here.

Where do PMs go after they peak?

By peaking I mean arriving at a GPM or Staff PM position at the top 10-15 companies (you can do your own ranking here).

Nobody has the true statistics but I will use the assumption that 75% (debatable) of those who peak, will get laid off within 2 years from their ‘peak role’. The remaining will be able to progress into DoP and VP in the same top company or another in the top 15.

Where do they go then?

I am pretty positive, from experience, that they don’t go any up.

Do they go down the ladder of new startups for titles and ending up in the worst ones after being laid off 4-5 times? Do they quit all together?

Do they open a farm?

Do they start their own startup?

Comments and thoughts folks!

Where Do PMs Go After They Peak?

Hi,

8 YOE, Security engineer trying to switch to PM role. Studied everything related to PM. Joined cohort based course who promised interviews but nothing came. Currently writing cold emails.

I am expert at cyber security who can understand code, write scripts, do front end dev, can design

What should I do to land a PM role?

Trying to find PM role for past 6 months without success. What should I do?

Security Engineer

I am getting into my second yr of MBA I did an internship in the area of market research and have skilled in power Bi, Excel, google analytics...have a good research mind and analytical thinking ability But I don't know coding i can't say my coding skill is bad becuz I don't know or don't have that skill. How can I become prodman don't have any other work experience i am a fresher

What should I need to do to become a PM

How can I enter product manager domain from sales. B.tech + 2 year exp in B2C sales
Drop any companies who are hiring for this rolw

Sales to APM or PM

Business Associate

Lost my job at a small startup a few months back. Was working as an APM there with a total of 18 months work ex as an APM. Did my MBA and 2.5 years as a data analyst prior to that. Unable to get any interviews so far.

Any help would be appreciated, thanks!

Looking for APM/ PM roles

Hey folks

So im looking out for a switch. I have overall 2.5yrs of experience with 1.3 yrs in product.

Im looking for APM roles preferably in Delhi/Gurgaon location, but open to pune, bangalore as well.

Im facing a lot of micromanagement at my current firm from the founder(since he heads product & tech) & i dont have ownership in my role. Even the director of PM shares the same frustration.

I feel like after a year of working here i wont have much to show in my cv in core product work. 

Just to give an example: i started an initiative to call customers for general feedback(satisfaction, whether they actually want what we are doing) & i was told to shut it down & work on things which doesnt have any customer validation.

If there are any opportunities available, kindly reach out. Any help would be appreciated.

TIA🙂

Anyone hiring APMs

Hello family, I am working as a Senior Data Analyst currently. I want to transition to Product management. Are the PM courses which are available in the market helpful? All the PM interviews, I had attended asked for relevant PM Experience. I have an MBA from IIM Rohtak. What is the best way? Please give your suggestion.

Senior Data analyst to Product manager transition

Data Analyst

Where can I find startups that are hiring for APM/PM roles with 1.5 years experience in SDE? Or is there someone who can refer?

APM/PM roles

Say you are a spectator and this seems like the next best thing to get into.. is that the right thought? 
And if you’re a non tech bachelors with an mba degree from tier two college, Is it possible to break in product management?
And if you’re seriously considering product still, are the fellowship programs, the boot camps and everything else advertised worth spending money?
Looking for answers, personal journeys and anything that can help!

How to get into product management ?

Business Development Manager

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Anyone hiring APMs?

Hello Fellow Grapeviners,

I am actively on the lookout for PM roles in E-commerce/Travel OTA/Fintech. I have 3 years of PM exp- worked in private Banks, have good exposure to different BFSI products - from savings accounts, cards, payments to new age tech - Tokenization, Account Aggregators, Product recommendation engine.
Currently facing quite a bit of Role Ambiguity - too many people involved in a simple product decision - so thinking of pursuing greener pastures.

Please let me know if there are any suitable openings in your orgs. Feel free to contact me over Telegram. 
ID -@draagonbornn

Note- Looking for Bangalore location only.


Thanks & Cheers for the long weekend ahead 😸🍺

Looking for PM roles in E-com/Travel OTA/Fintech

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Guys I have around 2.5 yes if exp in Pming but I want to switch to dev role (backend engineering) 
So should I apply to entry level SDE roles or my pm experience will be counted here?

From PM to Dev

Had started my career as a android developer for 2 years. Was fairly good at it. Went for a MBA from IIM K and joined a fintech startup as a PM. Around 5yoe PM now

Keep regretting on and off how life could have been as a developer. 
1. Crazy salary- esp after covid. Almost every org ways way more to a dev than a PM
2. Lot of options in job market - Unlike PM where demand is far less than supply
3. Specialised role - unlike PM where there is literally no entry barrier
4. Hard skill - unlike PM where everyone keeps questioning the need of the role
5. Chiller life - unlike PM where failures are yours but success is team’s

Does anyone else feel the same?

Sde to PM. Regrets

Sharing some reflections on this:

1. Product is not a function with a large hierarchy / multiple levels in the ladder. Managerial responsibility comes in very late in the product career and the spans are typically small (relative to other functions like engineering, sales, operations). This also means a steeper funnel to the top and only a handful VP Product roles in the industry.

2. Product is centered around technology and digital consumer trends, both of which are fast changing. This requires constant unlearning and relearning. But more critically, this also means that previous knowledge/experience hits a plateau on marginal value beyond a basic threshold (where you have developed some essential product semse and skills).

3. Product managers are also much higher-paid vs other functional peers, at comparable years of experience. This means that a PM gets to a very high salary (say, 1+ crore) by the age of 40 (15-20y into their career). Tech functions in non-tech companies (like FMCG, banking) cannot offer that kind of pay, meaning salary growth beyond a point is limited to tech-first companies / limiting addressable market for lateral moves.

All of these considererd, how should PMs think about the longevity of their careers? Unlike traditional roles, this does not seem like a "retire at 60" job. What would be the realistic age one should plan for, at which career growth and salary growth will stagnate? What are ways in which a 80%ile PM can extend their career (eg: also taking up engineering management or P&L responsibility or growth function etc., to increase scope)?

PS: this post is not for the top 5-10% PMs. They will always find roles at VP level etc, this is for the 50-90%ile bucket of PM talent.

Longevity of a product career

Will commend you on a very well written and well articulated post. 
  
 Options for the future will be apparent at ~40.  Most peak roles will be achieved between 45-50. 
  
 Possible exits: 
  
 1. Running Category roles at companies which have a broad canvas, multiple product categories. 
 2. Deputing for and eventually running a P&L or a LoB. 
 3. Sales or more critically Customer Success.  Don't shy away from revenue responsibilities. 
  
 Engineering is a sharp left turn imo.  It's not an overlapping skillset at best and don't see how that is part of a PMs likely roadmap.

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