For a lot of people, that would be aspirational

I doubt anyone writes cat with the aspiration to land up to GIM

Corporate Strategist

🙂 well I guess it's time to spend the next 5 years giving the CAT  :)

I joined tier 3 college with a branch lower than core at 75%ile, yes, I’m very successful

I joined tier 3 college with a branch lower than core at 75%ile, yes, I’m very successful- Grapevine

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As someone from a tier-3 college, is it possible for me to bag a good job and slowly climb the ladder and make 30L, 40L like some of you do?

Is this IIT branding so needed even today to get a job at top companies? 

I have huge regrets for fucking up JEE mains now.

Tier 3 college education struggle

Data Analyst

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Take this moment to thank my first manager. She changed my entire career and helped my realise true potential. 

I come from a tier 2 college. Come from a very lower middle class family, thanks to my parents who ensured I got everything for my education without worrying about anything. Topped my 10th board and then fumbled in 12th. Joined a tier 2 private college. Did engineering got placed somehow and then found the manager who changed my life and realised how much importance a manager has. She scolded me but helped me with my mistakes learned everything from her. Started at a salary of 5 lpa then in just 6 years of my journey I have reached a base salary of 80lpa as a director of product management. Although I left the first company after 3.5 years but whatever I learned from her has shaped me to what I am. I truly believe and hard work in initial part of my career and I believe without hardwork one cannot achieve top 1% things... My mantra is to give my 100% and even more in the initial part of career then enjoy everything. Today I am able to provide everything to my family. I have enough time, money and health to support myself and my family.

Just a gratitude post. Hard work always pays off. 

My work ex will be 6 years in April btw...

How good managers are important...

5 to 80 in 6 years! 
  
 Mind sharing the YoY hikes?

Product Manager

I wanted to pen down my story, as I have been feeling extremely low for the past two days. I work hard, but still don’t get the results that I deserve
Some background. Did engineering from a tier 3 college(this one’s on me, didn’t study hard in my 12th, hence completely my mistake). During college, I was motivated and determined to do good, and aspired for MS abroad in top university, so that I could get rid of the tier 3 tag(honestly, my undergrad college was so bad that mostly the localites of the city enrolled, and only for the purpose of getting a degree, even mass recruiters didn’t recruit from this campus). I worked hard in my first sem, and this college was affiliated to a state university. In the end sem exam, I was given horrible marks, completely careless checking, significantly reducing my GPA. I applied for reassessment but no change. Apart from that, I kept upskilling, learnt ML. In 4th sem, I was given a backlog(it got cleared when I applied for reassessment). Honestly I would always do well in class and internal exams, but somehow the external examiners always gave unfair marks and had to always apply for reassessment.
In 3rd year, I got an internship of 2 months, but had to cut it down to a month as college had attendance issues. In the final semester I got a 6 month internship at a very good startup, at a very good pay, but again, had to turn it down due to college attendance issues. During final year, wrote a research paper, initially it got rejected, but had to raise contention with the conference committee for unfair evaluation, and after reevaluation by other reviewers, got stellar reviews and paper was published( you see how unfair it is right). I also gave GRE, TOEFL and got decent score, got into 1 so so university but was rejected by 5 others. Didn’t go for it as it was not that great and it was COVID year.
After college concluded, it was COVID time. Continued in comments.

How do you keep yourself motivated, when things always go against you?

Machine Learning Engineer

Corporate has a different type of reservation.

Only IITs

2 -3 years exp with MBA  for salary 4-5LPA!

What's golden about this opportunity ?!

What kind of shit culture is this? Why doesn't anyone stand up?

Consultant

I am from a tier 3 college, going to graduate in 2024. With all these layoffs, recession scene going on I am completely stressed out. My college started pretty late, I am in third year within just 1 year of offline college and 1 year of online. Didn't really get time to learn and explore initially, I haven't done much development neither LeetCode, I feel like I am effed now. 

What and how should I start getting a grip on things? I have done basic HTML, CSS, know python and basics of JS plus Java, C and C++. 

I really want some guidance on how to proceed ahead with learning development, I really want a job and get out of my toxic household.

Need guidance

I am from a Tier 1 engineering college. Have done multiple stints in education and ed tech and am now at a VP position at a mid size edu company. Earning 50 LPA post 8 years of Work Ex. I can keep going at this rate and will have a comfortable life and also be in leadership positions which I enjoy. However I have been tempted to start up to have a shot at exponential gains in life- whether that is growth, money or influence over others. But then sanity also says most startups fail and why you want to spoil a good path. Anyone else faced this constant oscillation and how do you think about it or go about addressing it

To startup or not

Management Consulting

Welcome to Office Gossip's Private Community

TLDR;

Did B.Tech in ECE from a tier 3 college. In college, explored different avenues and finally found deep learning and computer vision to be the most interesting. Did lots of projects, research paper etc. However, being from a tier 3 college, making a career in this domain wasn’t easy. Graduated in 2020, joined a startup as an intern with a stipend of 35k per month. 6 months later, the internship didn’t convert, although I worked really hard and my manager liked my work.
Joined another startup with a salary of 6.5LPA. Although I had better offers, I decided to go with this one ad they were providing WFH (it was peak covid time). A few months into this startup, I realised the founder had no goal, no vision, was given random  vague projects, founders would pick up any project that their client would somehow talk about, assign it to me without doing any market research, and few months later scratch that. I realised, there was no future here, and for no reason, one of the founder kept micromanaging me (although the colleagues and seniors were great). And by that time, I also realised I was severely underpaid, as one of my close friend, who was a year junior to me was paid higher. I decided to leave that place, during a time of mass resignations in 2022 (the founders did try to retain me, but I was adamant as I didn’t see any vision and founder was too rigid to listen to anyone). I worked there for 1.3 years, at the same salary.

Later on in August 2022, I joined a series C funded startup, with a base pay of 14.5LPA, at nearly 2 YOE. While the hike was well above 120%, in some time I realised that this was the salary that they paid to IIT campus hires. Felt a little demotivated, Also, the culture here isn’t exactly good and sometimes gets quite toxic. However, I kept commited to my work, and come March 2023, I got a 10% appraisal, for which the VP personally had a conversation, I conveyed that I had higher expectations considering I joined at lower pay (1/n)

Hardwork and consistency pays off

The VP did agree to that, and my manager and VP had a few conversations around this topic from time to time. A week back, VP called me and congratulated me, saying that he decided to do a off cycle appraisal for me and gave me 26% appraisal, making my base pay 20LPA. I was on cloud 9. I didn’t arm twist my company, nor did I even ask for a higher pay, I was offered it right away. 
  
 Now many of you might say, dude whats the big deal. People with 2 YOE make 69LPA. Well, good for them. But I just wanted to write this post, To convey that don’t get disappointed when you see such CTC polls on grapevine. Everyone has their time. I’ve had many other failures, I keep trying to move to PM role(after working in startups, eventually gained interest), appeared for CAT(didn’t score that well), tried many things to come out of this tier 3 college status and make a career for myself. Just keep working hard, stay committed to your skills, good Karma, and success will surely follow you.

Take this work a pinch of salt, not to be triggered. 

I work in a company with a good number of folks working in product, growth/ strategy. Many of which are from tier 1 Indian business schools or some even from abroad. 

Paid hefty, I just don't see them being that smart. Putting way too much time into presenting something instead of getting work done. Jugaad method of calculating target metrics, ever changing requirements (low on clarity) is just the norm. 

I was someone who looked upto these colleges and wanted to be in one after having a good 5 yoe. Now I'm not sure. Hoping to be proved wrong, so there's no need to fire your guns at me :)

ISB, IIM Rant

Using Tier-3 as excuse to grow

Data engineer

Welcome to Software Engineers's Private Community

I am in my 3rd year (BE) . Unfortunately got tier-3 college. Was very ambitious regardless of the situation ,wanted to crack FAANG or any big thing. Started Learning from the first year itself while others were just enjoying . Was working very hard . Did some DSA . Did some full stack web-dev . College is super bad so relied on yt for roadmap and advice(No didi bhaiyas specifically) .There is literally sooo much to do dsa, dev , cp in just 4 year where i have to search the way out and learn while college bullshit (attendence , cgpa). Now everything seems worthless. All my efforts are all in vain. All are on the same pedestral now.  No one is getting anywhere. NO INTERNSHIP ,, i could see myself getting 4-5 lpa after this grind in the end. Well in the end I have to accept the fate that I am mediocre.

Help Too confused Too frustrated

Welcome to Personal Finance's Private Community

I'm going to be graduating from BBA, tier 3 college. I fucked up in 10 and a bit in 12th i took commerce, even though i was interested in building product and working on technical aspect of things. Then in the covid period, i panicked and thought I'll probably loose my year if I'll wait to take addmission thus took admission in tier 3 college, half of the college period i attended from home, in the mean time i learned little bit of scripting and built some shitass blockchain project which ended up amounting to nothing but i enjoyed that. Now idk what I'm gonna do in future. 


Currently I'm working towards studying for CFA lvl 1. 
Why? I've loved financial aspects of valuations of companies so thought i might as well do this in the time I'm unemployed.

I think my end goal is to work somewhere where i can solve product related problems or evaluate new startups. 
Consulting sounds cool too BUT me being from a tier 3 college i feel like I don't have a chance.

 Hell, i don't even know what's the purpose of my rant here, but hey if you have something to share please do :)

Graduating this year, scared af

My father worked as a peon when I was a kid. I barely had any friends and could not afford any toys. He used to work really long hours everyday. He was sleeping when I went to school and I was sleeping when he got back from work. So we never really talked. I was not good at studies during school, later I got to know that I had severe ADHD. My teachers used to say that I am good for nothing and very talkative all my life which gave me a lot of anxiety.

I got into a CSE at a Tier 2 college. This was with the help of my cousin sister who used to tutor me after school and taught me how to think from fundamentals. 

In college my seniors used to do a lot of ragging and make us not have food in the hostel mess. I lost a lot of weight and ended up with jaundice. This was the reason why I had a very bad CGPA in first year, <6. Slowly over the years I was able to bring it over 7.

I got into a service based company after college with a CTC of 3.75 LPA. I did not have any offers and I did not have anyone for guidance in my life. That is when I started to pick up some freelancing gigs and talked to people from other countries and cultures which educated me about top tech companies. So I started preparing for that.

I was rejected a total of 4 times by Amazon which completely broke me from the inside. Meanwhile my father got stomach cancer and he passed away. To this day my deepest regret is that my father did not see me finally achieving success in my life and till his last moments I am sure he thought of me as a failure son.

As I moved through my career I made a goal of reaching Google. I prepared very hard for an entire year with a lot of studying and preparation. Finally I got into Google. My family became very happy for me as I was the first person in my entire extended family to get such a package. After a lifetime of struggle I was finally content with where I am.

My only wish is that my father was here and his struggle for providing me with the best was not wasted.

Reached Google as a lifelong failure student 👨🏻‍💻

Glad to hear this man. My father also passed away because of stomach cancer. Cancer sucks but he's smiling down on you from heaven and your family is lucky to have a person like you with them! 
  
 Keep on achieving your dreams my friend!

Strategy & Operations

Software Developer

Recently scrolling thru LinkedIn I found many girls from my college are getting into Microsoft as a summer intern even if they don't have any leetcode , codeforces , code chef or GitHub profiles ... I am not sure how they are getting in.

Meanwhile boys are not even getting the test link or interview for that.

Is microsoft doing diversity hire for interns too?

Welcome to Indian Startups's Private Community

I have three younger cousins. They don't want to code. They have their clarity. They don't want to pursue any particular engineering stream as well. 

They want to get a decent paying job. Let's say 6-8 lpa start with a path to 15-20 lpa in 4-5 years. 

I tried advising them to not invest a lot of money and four years of time in engineering. Their family is average middle class financially. I told them that I'll advise you what all to learn like content writing, seo, data analytics etc. So do a simple course, save money and rather invest in something that matters for job. 

They did listen but did not get confidence to act. 
All three went for engineering stream. These are private colleges with tier 3ish names. Now they don't get time to put a lot of time because 8-4 is usually college time. Unlike tier 1,2 college where you get campus and a lot of freedom, the colleges usually have a lot of classes and compulsory 80% type attendance. 

Did you face similar situation? What did you advise? Do you think I was giving them right decision?

Did you try advising your cousins not to pursue engineering if they don't want to code?

Your advice is misleading. You don't become a best in class data analyst if you can't code. SEO is a shady business and there isn't growth. Even a PU graduate can do content writing or SEO. Engineering is like a passport. You use the degree to make your career. The number of people earning 20L with 5 yoe with a non engg degree is pretty low. I empathize with the 8-4 struggle. I have seen such people, but they are still better off by doing engineering than anything else. There are other core engineering career options in non-software industry, but you will have to be competitive to secure a decent job even there. There are banking, insurance etc. Even these require people to be competitive. There is no free lunch. May be in European nations, but these won't last long.

Analyst

Disclaimer: I have nothing against high earners in this group who are doing exceptionally well and earning big bucks at young age. You have my admiration. 

Target audience of this post: Everyone else who is doing okay in their job, earning an average salary for their age. 

Why have I posted it?: To not feel I am the only one who is a normal regular person doing just average in his life in this hyper competitive rat race. 

My thoughts: I clearly remember the moment, it was April 2007, I had barely completed the board exams of class 10th and joined class 11th. It was my first week into class 11th when a fine looking gentleman walked into our class to make us think of our future career path. He was from a coaching institute for IIT JEE and AIEEE. He told us about all the high salary packages at these premier institutes. I excitedly told my parents about it. 

Like any middle class parents, they dreamt of their son cracking the exam and securing good placements from IITs/NITs. They enrolled me in coaching. I worked hard for those 2 years, 11th and 12th. But what was harder was the constant stress and pressure I was put in, both intentionally and unintentionally. These ideas that 'I must crack JEE to have a good future', 'if you don't get through JEE then you are a waste' etc, were hammered into my mind day in and day out. 

I didn't crack JEE but got into a well reputed private engineering college of India.. Fast forward 4 years, did my MBA from  tier 2 college only to join a service company at salary that would be considered too low for most of the folks here who compare salary like a plague. Recently joined a product company with good jump. Realised all that pressure I was put under in high school wasn't necessary. I am doing ok in life. 

 I think it's okay to be earning an average salary, everyone of us is on his own journey of growth and comparing ourselves on basis of packages seems myopic

Too much gyaan? Getting a perspective on late Saturday night!!!

It's okay to be normal and ordinary

I can't seem to relate to much of the non-FAANG junta out there. I mean I have a cushy job with probably 0.1% pay of all SWEs(pretty much like all of us do). But these cookie-cutter roles have been taking a mental toll on me. Like I am getting paid but I feel a little purpose-less. What am I gunning for in this life? 

All my life I wanted to go to a good college to get into a good company. In college I wanted to get a good codeforces rank so that I could get into FAANG. Now that I am in FAANG I have nothing to look forward to. 

Any of you all feeling this way? Because I don't see myself offer-shopping and feeling much happy about that either.

Feeling depressed at Amazon(2YOE/41L CTC). Anyone else feeling the same way?

Recently watched Soul on hotstar and this actually makes sense now. The character was trying hard to perform in front of a crowd and  when it happened he wasn't feeling any change at all. At that time, he was told about the fish and the ocean story :-  
  
 I heard this story about a fish. 
  
 He swims up to an older fish and says, “I’m trying to find this thing they call ‘the ocean.'” 
  
 “The ocean? the older fish says, “That’s what you’re in right now.” 
  
 “This?” says the young fish. “This is water. What I want is the ocean!”

Software Engineer

You can legit get that knowledge from youtube too, but companies won’t consider


P.S. I am from Tier 2 MBA so cant diss me

I joined tier 3 college with a branch lower than core at 75%ile, yes, I’m very successful

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