Start owning your leaves
Qwerty2398
Stealth
17 days ago
This works only with western managers. India managers will take it to heart and make it an ego issue. The effect will be felt on something else. If the manger is a man, he will let it go if you correct yourself next time. If the manager is a woman, will never see the end of it.
Always treat Indian managers like street dogs. You dont pet them , but you dont throw stones at them either..
Nolimit
Stealth
17 days ago
In Product based companies, we don't require any approval. I can just wake up and say taking leave on chat, that's it.
No questions asked.
If want to take a long vacation, just update it on workday and update your calendar and notify in team channel that you will be away for these days.
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Exactly! I've also seen people worrying about the reason (mandatory on our HRMS portal) to give while applying for a leave, as if we're obligated to explain that to the company. I just go with "personal reasons" lol, nobody's complained so far — and nor should they.
Ghumu
Stealth
17 days ago
I just write dot dot dot
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Last year, I applied for 5 days of leave and informed my manager that I would be out of the city during that period. He agreed and requested that I send an email, copying his manager and HR. I asked for the HR contact details, but he didn’t respond. Consequently, I proceeded to send the email to him and submitted the leave request on the portal as well. A week before my leave was to start, I followed up with him to approve it, but he informed me that he couldn’t approve it himself as it required HR approval due to the length of the leave. At that time, I had completed my training and was awaiting project assignments while working on some POCs. I still find the process to have been straightforward, so I’m unsure why he was reluctant to approve it.
Exactly. My FAANG experience tells me Managers who ask the reason for leaves are not worth it!
gave the same advice to a fresher who joined like a month ago yesterday when he told me that he'll "ask" the manager for leave, just apply for the leave and let him know that you'll be out of office for so and so days, no need to even tell the exact reason unless you know them well, just throw "for some personal work"
Same. I am a manager/architect in a product company and whenever any one applies leave neither I nor any other fellow manager questions. However if a team member is taking unplanned leave frequently then we'll definitely have one to one and try to understand his reason. Also long leisure leaves should be applied before the start of the sprint.
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Yes that's absolutely right. I never ask for leave just drop a message that I'll be taking leave with no reason specified. Luckily, got a good manager also who never questions the same.
Ask the Indian manager for wfh and he suggests otherwise and you be adamant on wfh..next thing you see yourself put on PIP
dukhdardpeeda
Stealth
16 days ago
That's horrifying. Happens at Oracle?
It depends on the company culture though.
Product based companies like us. We just text on slack about the leave and apply on portal and that's it.
Had a bitch of a director in a big 4 company who conveniently forgot about my well-in-advance-informed leaves; and later made me go through hell when I did utilise those leaves
My manager said this to me on Day 1. If you ever need to take leave, just take it. Even if you want WFH, take it. As long as you are maintaining a good WLB and getting your work done, I can back you with you when you take leave or WFH, if anyone else questions it.
G pe kheecha ke laat padegi ek 🤣 Naukri jayegi wo alag. Ye hundistan hai mere dost yaha ek job opening pe hazaro log free mei kaam karne ko tyaar rehte hain.
Even though my company is a new age startup, it still takes long holidays like 4 5 days. Sick leave is easy to take but when you ask for 4 5 day holiday, manager starts making faces
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DenseTackle
Stealth
17 days ago
Yup
OnADietCoke
Stealth
16 days ago
There are a few rare situations this doesn't apply to, but I agree this should be the norm.
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