The risk is not worth it. Sometimes these things come back to bite you after decades.

Decades? This won't come back once you make the next switch. But still not a good thing to lie

Founder

I get the lying part is bad, just wanted to understand how someone would come to know about it @Elon_Musk  @OurTaxicab54

Program Manager

Startups overvalue their own esops all the time, go for it my dude! 
  
 Keep the esop compensation to an appropriate percentage for your level though (20% for freshers, 30% for mid level, 40% for senior, etc) — compare popular companies’ compensation percentage breakdown on levels.fyi for your level

Software Engineer

How would the new employer get to know this?
Also what is the general % of salary offered in esops ?

While switching, can I lie about my esop compensation part in my salary?

While switching, can I lie about my esop compensation part in my salary?- Grapevine

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I had been toiling in my current organization for a good while despite the compensation not being totally fair. Whenever I brought this discussion up with the CEO, he always played the friend card and promised to give me what I deserve once the company raises the next round. He also claimed to have supposedly saved me from the layoffs which was completely in his control in the first place. Now I got a better offer, kind of like a dream offer- one that I well deserve, and have convinced a challenging panel to get. One small concern is that during the initial stages of the application, I lied about how much I was getting paid currently. Now that I actually made it and got the offer, I have to submit the documents. How far are these things taken seriously?

Will payslip verification be taken seriously?

Digital Marketing

Currently in talks with the CEO of a small international startup (less than 10 total members spread across 4 countries). My existing profile is an exact match for what they are looking for in a candidate (they are implementation partners of my existing company's software). 
I am pretty close to closing it but now he wishes to know my existing salary. I tried to avoid sharing it but he wants to know it before quoting anything to me. 
I wish to get a huge raise (80-100%) since i will be moving from a known brand to an unknown startup with all the skills they need and more from Day 1. 
Any tips on how I can handle this situation?

How to avoid disclosing current salary

Consultant

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I have 6 years experience. My current base/fixed is 60 LPA. (I also got a 5 lakh bonus and 5 lakh of my ESOPs vested this year making my total vested about 30 lakh. So the total comp is 70). 

I'm being offered a senior engineer position in an early stage startup (as part of the founding engineer team). They haven't given an offer yet.

Being early stage, the emphasis will most likely be on ESOPs. How do I evaluate this and set my expectations? (If I were to switch to a mature company, I believe the hikes usually are between 15-20%? How does this work for early stage startups?)

Salary expectation at early stage startup

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Hello All,

I interviewed with a startup recently and some of their policies around esops was something I encountered for the first time in my career, so wanted the expert advice of the community on next steps.

Surprise one: ESOPs will be allocated post probation period of 3 months and vesting starts from there and not the date of joining, I was surprised on this but upon discussion with the company POC I was given a reason of the legal fees involved, which sounds fair but the vesting schedule is it employee favourable?

Surprise two: They shared an offer letter with only the fixed component and said ESOPs will be evaluated post completion of probation period basis performance. Upon further discussing in this I was informed that this is a standard format their VC(sequoia, a16z and elevation) have approved. Is this true because I asked around few of my friends and all of them said esops are an integral part of the startup compensation and all of my and their offer letters historically had esops mentioned along with their value. 

Wrt to point 2 an I asking too much or some practice has changed in the industary which I’m unaware about. Also esop value post probation evaluation, is it employee friendly as the employee is in non negotiable position, isn’t it ?

Should esops component  be mentioned in offer letter?

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Hi, I got an offer from a Series B startup and they are giving me 3000 shares of ESOPs vested over 4 years. Right now the value of each shares are worth $5 and has a potential to grow after new funding rounds this year. I feel 3000 shares is less and want to negotiate for more. 

In your experience can anyone tell me how much ESOPs (shares) have you received from new startups? And was it benefecial in the long run?

Any input is appreciated.

How much ESOPs should I ask from a Series B startup?

Analyst

Whenever a recruiter asks for your current salary, do you guys include ESOPs?
Eg. If your Fixed component is 20 Lakhs ,variable is 2 lakh and you were granted ESOPs valued at 10 lakh.
Is your CTC 22LPA or 32LPA?

Do you guys include ESOP in your CTC

Software Developer

Please share how your company esop policy is. Is it really valuable for employees or just used to create hype and retail talent. 
How many years can you exercise them after resignation?
How did the taxation go if someone has been lucky enough to convert it to cash?
Should esops be a factor while leaving current company or joining a new company?

Are ESOPS really worth it? Has anyone built considerable wealth through it? Share experience.

I have recently received an offer from a startup and my offer letter says that I will receive esops (post round). 

What does post round here mean?

Have little doubt about ESOPs mentioned in my offer letter

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I'm switching PM jobs from my existing company (Series E unicorn) where I had a good ESOP policy to a smaller company (just past Seed stage, raising Series A).

Weirdly, they're not offering me a proper ESOP package (vague figures, no useful $ values mentioned in the offer) even though the salary offer is pretty good. Company culture is good & team seems happy during my interactions.

Should I be worried? Any suggestions on how I can approach this convo with co-founder are welcome too.

While switching, can I lie about my esop compensation part in my salary?

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