Will payslip verification be taken seriously?
I had been toiling in my current organization for a good while despite the compensation not being totally fair. Whenever I brought this discussion up with the CEO, he always played the friend card and promised to give me what I deserve once the company raises the next round. He also claimed to have supposedly saved me from the layoffs which was completely in his control in the first place. Now I got a better offer, kind of like a dream offer- one that I well deserve, and have convinced a challenging panel to get. One small concern is that during the initial stages of the application, I lied about how much I was getting paid currently. Now that I actually made it and got the offer, I have to submit the documents. How far are these things taken seriously?
Do not lie. You are setting yourself up for an intervention later, if not an immediate rescind.
Share the existing salary slip and (only if they ask) say that you quoted the # you expected post March appraisal. Since you’re moving earlier, it’s lower than expected.
Yes payslip verification are taken seriously,
Know this that 3rd party verification agency is usually employed for this.
Do not ever fake payslip.
Once caught you will not only loose job but also burn bridges.
Nothing is stopping the HR to share this info with other HR's, in fact they will share because they will earn goodwill by sharing red flags.
Don't be a red flag, when you don't need to be.
But how do these agencies verify exactly?
Since the current CEO talks so much about being a friend, what if I ask him to back me up in this process? Would that work?
No, verbal commitment means shit.
Ask the CEO to give you properly forged payslips, that might work. He will get it done through the accountant.
Technically it's possible.
Anyway, pls don't go down this path, it's extremely risky and not worth it.
You are risking your reputation. That's all you will ever have in the professional world.
Think this - your close friend or your own brother or sister if they chose to do a startup will not hire you tomorrow because eof this simple fact if you can forge payslips you can do lot more damage.
You can never be trusted.
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spidey
Stealth
a year ago
I work in a Background verification company, sharing false salary slips can be a problem. With any luck, you may pass through as well. Typically verifiers share your document with ex employer and ask them to verify it, now some employers just check tenure and designation, and confirm based on that. Most do not like to comment on compensation at all. However, the hr of the ex employer can look at the document, and if they can see or if they can feel it’s incorrect/photoshopped, they may mention that the document is fabricated. It’s a common reason for failing verification checks.
Another caveat is that the company that you are joining might not have employment check as part of the verification scope at all, or might not care and keep moving even when the check fails, but chances are that they will bring you pain, and may try to renegotiate or decline to onboard basis the failed employment check. I have seen enough in the background verification process that lying on documents is super risky these days.
Sir, I had doubt on learning that verifiers asks ex employer/ HR to verify. If the ex employer is a large psu firm, how do they decide to whom to contact? Employee ka ek kaam toh dhang se HR nahi kar paate, BVC kya hee sunegi
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Charliebrown
Stealth
a year ago
I will give one idea on this..Use a fake payslip to get a offer on the company where you don't want to join. Then leverage on that offer for the company you want to join & share your original payslip along with offer on the company which you don't want to join. I have done this in my last switch and it worked well.
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RemoteLute36
Stealth
a year ago
Maine apna payslip Photoshop kiya tha, nothing happend.
Always remember, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
I’m sorta betting on this too. But I guess it all really boils down to the organization kind that I’m joining at the end
RemoteLute36
Stealth
a year ago
Agreed. Startup hai to nahi check karne waale, big MNC to pakka check karenge
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If you mentioned an overall number, then you can mention the extra as ESOP. that only has a paper value.
dukhdardpeeda
Stealth
a year ago
Yes the best legitimate option! And I think it would be less likely to ask for proof of the same.
You can fake pay slip but you can't fake Provident fund contribution, right? If they verify pay slip as part of BGC you will be in soup.
WebMaster69
Stealth
a year ago
Damn, tell them u can’t share that.
WebMaster69
Stealth
a year ago
Yup. You are under no obligations to send them anything
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dukhdardpeeda
Stealth
a year ago
Apne ko ghanta fark ni penda 🤣
Gokart
Stealth
a year ago
PF verification fail kyun hoga ? PF amount can be the same irrespective of the pay right ?
Never mess with payslip details. The employer will verity it, actually its easy to verify; because of the new digital verification procedures. They digitally pull out data from PF accounts and can verity it accordingly.
From my experience let’s say you make 100$ & you have mentioned 150$ then the agency verifies your job title, duration & pay but your past employer rarely confirms the pay part. Also, it depends on how big is your HR department. If it is small then they will probably reply about fake TC but if it is big then the person who verifies on behalf of Hr just has your name, title & duration but not payslip details
Novice child, search google for form 26 AS and then cry in a corner.
fakekpi
Stealth
a year ago
Don’t fake payslips. Nope. Never. They are stage 1 of background verification along with identity and every company regardless of size does it. You’re forging a legal document that can actually get you blacklisted from the corporate industry.
Say you added the appraisal value and that’s why it is higher.
dukhdardpeeda
Stealth
a year ago
Can you really add the appraisal value and share payslips?
You have been told you would get a certain amount as appraisal but you didn't get it yet right?
Also, I guess they would need proof of the appraisal that you have really got. Or you would just say it's confidential lol
fakekpi
Stealth
a year ago
It’s still suspicious, but OP should hope and pray they think he is naive and not a conman.
VatsavGh21
Stealth
a year ago
Don't lie about your current CTC, it will be anyways verified and if found to be false you may be terminated. Say that it was expected in upcoming appraisal but it has been withheld. And you say that you expect a market correction from the new organization. Try to deal with it tactfully before they found it to be false.
UPDATE :
I didn’t forge any documents. I just took a leap of faith and sent in the original documents. The new employer doesn’t seem to care about the absolute numbers. It passed their background verification and I’ve successfully joined their organization. I was planning to account the difference towards ESOPs or promised appraisal, but never had to at all.
junto
Stealth
a year ago
Usually for how many months is the payslip asked for? 3 or more?
Queenpin
Stealth
a year ago
Just send your real payslip..There are very bleak chances that HR would create issue on previous pay after rolling out offer.
I own a company and I don't understand why that's even a thing. If I hire someone, I will pay whatever I think they're worth, regardless of what their previous employer paid them.
Good, how much are you worth,? because for rest we are defined by our previous drawn, no matter what.
Wouldn't go around disclosing my net asset worth on an anonymous platform haha, but I'm doing well :)
Just don't stick around in toxic environments, there are better options out there. Work hard!
dukhdardpeeda
Stealth
a year ago
All the very best for the step you take and please keep us posted!
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