AI has already destroyed our economy before neural erosion hits us.
be me
AI researcher watching the entire field turn into recursive dogshit
my face when neural erosion is literally destroying everything we built
Listen up Grapevine, it's time for a deep-dive blackpill on how AI isn't just killing your job, it's recursively degenerating into a self-propagating economic apocalypse.
India's wagies? Completely f'ed. Universal Basic Income? Just cope for the intellectually illiterate. Society? Headed straight for an algorithmically-induced collapse
neural erosion and recursive degeneration is real
So, you know how deep learning works, right? Gradient descent:
theta(t+1) = theta(t) - η * grad(L(theta(t)))
in before "bruh what does this mean"
This function is supposed to make AI models "better" by minimizing some loss function L(theta), usually crafted to align AI outputs with human expectations. Sounds nice in theory. But here's where it all goes to shit: models are being retrained on their own outputs, garbage in, garbage out.
If you recursively fine-tune a model on AI-generated data (call it D_AI) >>
errors don't just persist, they accumulate. Over multiple cycles, the gap between actual human goals R* and what the AI optimizes for R^ grows:
delta_R = R^ - R*
This isn't a bug. It's a fundamental consequence of recursive self-optimization.
The system is drifting further from human needs, while simultaneously displacing human labor. A pure degen death spiral.
the math of total economic destruction
be India 500M+ normie wagies (btech/mba coolies) thinking they're safe. AI be like: you will own nothing and be jobless xD
Alright, let's talk labor markets. Say you start with a human labor force L0. Every time AI efficiency improves, a fraction ε of jobs gets yeeted from the job market. The number of workers left after k cycles?
L_k = L0 * (1 - ε)^k
It is pure exponential decay. Not linear. Not gradual. Just absolute obliteration.
in before "but muh human ingenuity"
Doesn't matter. Even with a baby-tier automation rate (ε = 0.05), India is looking at mass unemployment within a handful of AI training cycles.
You don't even need superintelligence, just mediocre recursive models chewing through the economy like an unchecked Markov process.
It gets worse. Neural erosion also screws over the AI itself.
Training a model recursively on its own distorted outputs is literally a form of entropy maximization. With every generation >>
E_(n+1) = E_n * e^(-λ)
Where E_n is the employment rate, and λ represents the combined effect of automation + neural erosion. Given enough iterations, E_n asymptotically approaches zero.
India's entire economic engine? Deleted. Tata. Bye Bye.
why india is going to have the worst time
India's whole competitive advantage is cheap labour, the one thing recursive AI is the best at eliminating.
You think this country survives off software engineering jobs? Lmao, no. The real economy runs on:
- Agriculture (AI-powered supply chains and autonomous equipment = mass job loss)
- Manufacturing (robotics + reinforcement learning = mass job loss)
- Call Centers (LLMs = mass job loss)
- Logistics (self-driving + optimization = mass job loss)
Doesn't matter if AI degrades over time due to neural erosion, by the time that kicks in, the economy is already in terminal collapse.
Mathematically, GDP is driven by labor input L:
Y = A * L^α
Where α is 0.5-0.8 for labor-driven economies. But if L → 0, then Y implodes hard.
No jobs >> no spending >> no economy.
Doesn't matter how much automation boosts productivity.
"But my Universal Basic Income?" (Pure Copium)
be wagie
AI just made you redundant
govt throws you UBI crumbs in your UPI wallet inflation eats the crumbs faster than you can spend them
You think UBI is the solution? Nah. It's just slow-motion starvation. The fundamental equation for an AI-obliterated economy still holds:
L_k = L0 * (1 - ε)^k
As L_k → 0, economic output Y shrinks to nothing. UBI can't redistribute wealth if there is no wealth left to redistribute. At best, it buys a few extra years of stability before total collapse.
- AI replaces jobs
- More people become unemployed
- AI continues to optimize, displacing even more workers
- Recursive degradation makes AI less useful, but by then the economy is already dead
- UBI fails because redistribution means nothing without production
- Society fractures into civil unrest, mass poverty, and political instability
Congrats. You've just unlocked AI-induced feudalism.
tl;DR
- Neural erosion means AI is recursively degenerating itself.
- Recursive optimization = job loss = total economic collapse.
- India is getting absolutely nuked by this process.
- UBI isn't a solution, it's just post-collapse coping.
- Society won't adapt >> it will just disintegrate.
be humanity
thought AI would be a useful tool
turns out it's an unstoppable recursive algorithm of doom
my face when we all walk into the chaos smiling
Final Conclusion: We are so back (but in the worst way possible).
Talking product sense with Ridhi
9 min AI interview5 questions
Bruh this is very black pill. Asked Claude what it means in 30 words.
Anon doom-posts about AI's death spiral: recursive training makes AI more garbage while speedrunning economic collapse. India's tech bros are ultra-rekt. UBI? Just cope, fam. We're all gonna make it (to feudalism).
be me idgaf
Why do you think AI output is garbage? It's trained on human data in the first place, I'd say it's actually better output compared to what an average human can do.
Rest of the theory still stands, yes. We face mass job eliminations within the next 5 years.
Maybe it's not so bad that we are agriculture and manufacturing oriented. AI will take a longer time to get into physical labour and real world analysis of problems.
And at the end of it all, every AI output still needs a human check because it's not reliable enough. There will always be a need for human checks for all AI output generated anywhere and everywhere. The risk is too high to let bots take over completely. We can't afford to do that unless AGI can achieve 99.9999% efficiency and better outputs compared to humans, and even then a human will be signing off on the output.
Because AI will never replace humans. It may change/replace human jobs but not humans themselves.
eli5-ing it for anyone else who is smooth brained: https://i0.wp.com/ediscoverytoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/AITraining-1.png?resize=723%2C431&ssl=1
Ignoring the doomer context, he is right that AI trained on synthetic AI generated data leads to performance degradation. Basically post 2020, the amount of AI generated data on the internet has and will keep on growing exponentially, while human generated data will stay flat or grow at a lower rate leading to a dead internet and not enough genuine data to train better models.
That being said AI is not replacing agriculture at least in this country. If AI replaces our farm bros, then farmers will get their sticks and get on their tractors and destroy robots and beat the shit out of people funding these technologies.
This is a proper AI doomsday post and boy, it could actually come true
Who are these companies going to sell stuff to if no one has a job? AI bros can't think beyond hype and doomerism. The capitalistic system relies on consumerism without which it would collapse rapidly. Do you think this system would exist if the material condition of the masses falls rapidly? No. So stop fear mongering about AI taking over jobs and shit.
Well one thing that could get worse is the wealthy serving the wealthy protected by the wealthy. AI can lead to this.
Truth! All this AI bros rant is becoming irritating and exhausting.
Bro, this is a very well-written piece, but I look at this differently.
- Labor Market Dynamics – Job losses aren’t linear. A better model accounts for job creation (γ) and skill adaptation (σ):
L_k = L0 \times (1 - \ϵ + \ γ)^k \times (1 + \ σ k)
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History proves adaptation > displacement – The Industrial Revolution, computing, and the internet created far more jobs than they eliminated.
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AI enhances, not replaces – The neural erosion model ignores human oversight, hybrid workflows, and productivity boosts.
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India’s unique edge – With 65% of its population under 35 and the fastest IT skill adaptation rate globally, the transition will be faster here.
Bottom line: Job transformation ≠ Job elimination. AI will shift labor, not erase it.