DancingHamster
DancingHamster

AMA 🎙️: Hey all, I am pmsprint, Director of Product Management at a Unicorn in India!

Hey everyone, excited to be doing this AMA!

A brief about me, I work currently as a Director of Product at an Indian unicorn startup

About my career:

  • Did my undergrad from IIT and then masters from an Ivy league school
  • Have been in product for almost 10 years now - across 2 Indian unicorn startups and a publicly listed company

Would love to take questions on what it means to be a PM, growing within the role, building your career, and other things :)

Will be back here at 4 pm and start replying Shoot away!

22mo ago
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9 min AI interview5 questions
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GoofyBagel
GoofyBagel

Kitna kama lete ho?

DancingHamster
DancingHamster
Nykaa22mo

Slowly but surely.

SwirlyBagel
SwirlyBagel

@pmsprint bata de bhai, hum hadap nahi lenge screen se.

FluffyKoala
FluffyKoala
InMobi22mo

How do the goal setting differ from small startups to unicorns to public companies?

DancingHamster
DancingHamster
Nykaa22mo

Goal setting is about objectively putting the vision into actionable items. At a startup, while the broad vision is clear, your quarter or annual goals change as you experiment and get feedback from customers. So you adapt quickly. At a public company, you need to plan for annual targets and expenses, so your goal setting is at least a year out. There, the job of CXOs and like is to manage the risk of some bets not working out. (Cue - Margin Call scene of "Why I make the big bucks..."). Unicorns are somewhere in the middle. Similar principles, different variances. All said and done, goal setting is important to clearly communicate to the org where we are headed. I'd also recommend personal goal setting for the same reasons. You should have a vision of where you want to be in 1 year, 2 years, 5 years. Better to base it on problems you want to solve rather than the $/title you want. Easier said than done.

SquishyQuokka
SquishyQuokka
Gojek22mo

Margin Call is underrated ++
Amazing cast.

But damn, this answer is pure 🤌🏻✨

SquishyQuokka
SquishyQuokka
Gojek22mo

Did your ESOPs eventually amount to anything? 😂😂😂

Tell us about this from your startup experience. If they did, then what %age gains did you end up making from them.

Also, how did the liquidation event turn out for you?

Grapeviners deserve to knoww. 🍇🥵

DancingHamster
DancingHamster
Nykaa22mo

Unicorns - not yet. Still hopeful. Public company - sold when I quit. If it is equal to liquid cash, I'd rather treat it as such.

SquishyQuokka
SquishyQuokka
Gojek22mo

@pmsprint May your ESOPs 100x just like my respect for you. 🫡

DerpyBoba
DerpyBoba
InMobi22mo

How do you work on the perception that is building this year that all PMs do is talk? PMs everywhere lately get trolled behind their backs. I honestly find worth in thr role. Just curious

DancingHamster
DancingHamster
Nykaa22mo

Seen both sides of it. Seen PMs who just talk and others who solve. Just focus on the quality of the work, and make sure you have a good boss who can bat for you at the right places. Rest will take care of itself.

GigglyNarwhal
GigglyNarwhal

No one asked but I just want to say as an SDE that I really appreciate the work done by my past PM and APMs. They were excellent and involved the tech team closely in many product decisions. The PM was very transparent on what they didn't knew. Additionally in any interaction with him, I could always learn something new about the product or industry. Thank you all legit PMs for making our lives easier.

ZippyDumpling
ZippyDumpling

How did you crack cross team collaboration (especially w/ engineering teams) over time?

I’m not a PM, but as part of my role I find it to be the hardest thing

DancingHamster
DancingHamster
Nykaa22mo

Cross team collaboration is important. As many questions have indicated already, it is amply clear that PMs generally have to prove the worth and demonstrate that the direction they want to take the team in, and the team has to truly believe that the direction is worth going in and investing their time in. So, to foster cross team collaboration, you give visibility into the problems, solve them together, debate on them and have the team's be on the same page. It works better when you are focusing on solving the problem rather than who solves the problem.

ZippyDumpling
ZippyDumpling

Thanks for answering, very helpful My main challenge today is being unable to figure out if the timelines that engineers/designers are coming back with are fair

At what point did you become good at figuring this out?

ZestyWaffle
ZestyWaffle

Is PM the new Growth Marketing? Agree or Disagree?

SquishyBanana
SquishyBanana

I am trying to move from growth marketing to product growth 🤷

DancingHamster
DancingHamster
Nykaa22mo

Depends on context. There are some products/companies where PM is responsible for driving growth, and growth marketing does play a big part there. The add on is finding the hooks and hacks and getting them embedded into the product. Overall, I wont agree that PM is Growth Marketing. A top PM might not be a top growth marketers. A top growth marketer might not care about the tech behind it. Make of it what you will.

ZoomyNugget
ZoomyNugget

Thanks for the AMA, really appreciate it. I have these questions for you -

  1. How important is the role of my manager in shaping my PM career?
  2. Should I switch the co., if the manager is not mentoring?
  3. Are there other avenues for me to get feedback & improve?

About me:

working at a mid-sized startup in blr moved from engineering to PM good with product execution still have to work on other pillars of PM

About manager:

gives random gyaan without providing actionable feedback expects to close items, but does not even review the work for weeks

WigglyDumpling
WigglyDumpling

Following

DancingHamster
DancingHamster
Nykaa22mo
  1. Role of the manager is super important. Especially for an early career PM or a transitioning PM, it is almost like defining the direction of the growth vector, and the magnitude could depend on your work, projects, luck, etc. Your manager should be able to identify your gaps and help you plug those. And should be someone you can look up to for at least some skills.
  2. Hard to say. Would definitely recommend a group outside of work where you can bounce ideas and share experiments. On manager not reviewing work - be a pain and follow up. Be a Gandhi. And know when you cut losses.
MagicalRaccoon
MagicalRaccoon
Oracle22mo

How frequently PM should switch job to increase CTC+ Get domain knowledge of different products and industries

DancingHamster
DancingHamster
Nykaa22mo
  1. Understand the market rate and be in the 80%-120% range. Switch only if you fall out of it.
  2. Focus on learnings and problem solving.
  3. You can be an industry expect or a generalist. If you choose a generalist path, then you should specialize in problems that span across industries (like retention/engagement, optimization, etc.)
MagicalRaccoon
MagicalRaccoon
Oracle22mo

What resources you refer to understand the market rate. I mainly look into levels. fyi

SquishyQuokka
SquishyQuokka
Gojek22mo

Looking back at your own career trajectory, what is single handedly the most important thing that impacted your career?

DancingHamster
DancingHamster
Nykaa22mo

The dots always connect looking backwards. I think I was fortunate to have two managers at different times in my career who were very patient, sharp and genuinely cared about my growth. They taught me a lot. There were other things too - luck, privilege, hard work, foundational years. But those are not repeatable.

WobblyPretzel
WobblyPretzel

What does a director of PM actually do ?

DancingHamster
DancingHamster
Nykaa22mo

Ah, a lot of jargon incoming. Vision setting, team development, stakeholder management, upwards management and of course making sure that execution is tight. As you go through every level, you have to maintain the bar on the skills you have already mastered and develop new ones. At a Director, the above are what you need to get right.

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