SillyDumpling
SillyDumpling

Unpopular Opinion: It's a great time to be a PM

No, I'm not talking about the job market. That's dog shit -- barely any vacancies, and engineers earn 25%ish more.

However, in a world with 10x better Co-Pilots and other GenAI tools, problem identification is going to be every employee's moat. 'Tech-Enabled' Business PMs will have the brightest futures. There's already a rise in PM-led vs Eng-led startups. This will become clearer 5-10 years down the line.

Also, supply-demand is not as skewed as you think. Everyone thinks this job is easy, and hence, a bunch of folks are aspiring PMs on LinkedIn. I believe quality PMs are still rare (personally have a long way to go).

Would love to hear more. I'm young in my career and maybe naive but this is what I feel.

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SillyJellybean
SillyJellybean

Yet to see a PM launch a startup without knowing how to code. There may be a few here and there, but if it was that easy more people would be doing it.

Sounds good on paper but when you start executing and facing tech problems with a platform and language you barely understand, you'll see why good engineers are still needed.

Engineers can be PMs but PMs can't be engineers. Learning curve is too high for coding.

SillyDumpling
SillyDumpling

Definitely true but we are moving towards a future where deploying an MVP is going to be much easier. To some extent, it already is.

I think PMs will thrive in an environment like that.

SillyJellybean
SillyJellybean

True, but what about scaling that MVP? It's still very difficult for non engineers.

If it's cookie cutter basic stuff like setting up Shopify stores, no problem. Anything more customized and complex would still need coders beyond a point.

Many people still don't understand how APIs work, how to setup custom domains, emails, hosting etc. Even I barely understand it all myself. I am forced to depend on an external dev agency for handling all of that.

SnoozyPotato
SnoozyPotato

GenAI tool can list down the template, but without having hands on I don’t know if it can build a system which can handle Millions RPS, if it can do that then it won’t need the PM as well, AI will do everything on its own, probably turn sentient

SillyDumpling
SillyDumpling

I'm not saying engineers are going to become redundant.

  1. Product sense as a skill will become more valuable because it's unstructured and harder to replicate with Gen AI
  2. Entry barrier to tech is going to reduce -- launching MVPs will be much easier
SnoozyPotato
SnoozyPotato

Have you talked to an engineer with a product problem which will touch a Billion user, with 500M request per day, have you even thought about what will happen if thats the case?

SparklyBoba
SparklyBoba

What is your product experience? What is your specific value add in your organisation, you feel? Just curious

SillyDumpling
SillyDumpling

3 YOE. Worked on a 0-1 product for a unicorn and now at a seed stage startups.

Value adds (in order of impact):

  1. Problem identification and opportunity sizing through research/analytics
  2. Process optimisation with business teams -- decreasing scope for internal products/saving cost
  3. Building hacky automations, eliminating dependencies, etc. -- anything that saves eng time
  4. Initial solutioning, alignment, GTM, impact analysis
  5. Random generalist shit
FloatingWaffle
FloatingWaffle

😅 another 0-1 wetback thinks he knows the world smh

SquishyQuokka
SquishyQuokka
Gojek10mo

I am inclined to agree. There is an advantage to Product first Engineers and Engineering first PMs.

AI can bridge the gap between the two yielding a better ROI.

FloatingWaffle
FloatingWaffle

Lol. U r sounding more as a hopeful prayer. Good that you have hope if nothing else as a PM...

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