Lately I am seeing a lot more people talk about the fact that being a PM is a sub optimal strategy for an eventful career in Tech. However, let me remind you that people in tech tend to be predominantly engineers and they like the people skills needed to be good at making Products for actual humans.
I have personally witnessed PMs be great at talking to various teams in Engg, Design, Analystics and Operations. They are so good at talking that they forget that they actually need to work and not just speak all the time. I feel that PMs are all talk but now work and just chill around the foosball table all day. Once in a while they will go and flirt with that new chick that joined their team. In case the joke wasn't clear, "PMs are the cesspool of Tech". š
How many PMs does Snap have anyway? Is 20 significant?
As for if PMs are required - most PMs hired are already pretty sorted career wise in my experience (e.g. IIT IIM ISB, ex-Consultant, ex-IB, ex-Engg etc.). If their new roles were āmade upā theyād have switched. Fact remains - PMs enjoy pretty high job fulfilment satisfaction vs other careers.
As for what runs on GV - as you said, most folks here are Engineers. the roles are such that thereās unavoidable friction so most opinions have anti-Product taste. If the democratic opinion on GV was correct a lot more of us would have been fired long time ago.
There are good PM job descriptions and bad JDs. Many startups dont define the role well which builds complacency and overlords of the PM role. PM is a on-ground CEO of product. He needs to own delivery, own collaboration and own planning timelines and get buy in from the engineers throughout all the process. Most PMs think their task is only fancy ideation and A/B testing- thats where the gap lies.
Ideally a PM should clearly analyse how much cost saving , time saving his role is causing the project.
PMs job main job is timely delivery and cost saving. Every pm should very clearly document it per project. That will give clarity of a PMs effectiveness.
Absence of above seems like pms do all talk.
The hate on PMs in GV just goes to show the engineersā level of ignorance.
Maybe PMs at your company are shit.
Everyone and their mother became a product manager in the last few years. How safe are these jobs in a recession. I often hear (from engineers who donāt hide their disdain for PMs so maybe a biased opinion) that they are the first one to...
Note - I am a product manager too
4 out of 5 product managers will act all high and mighty of themselves, bragging their way as if they run everything going on in the company, flaunting their business degrees and being utterly disresp...
So I've met many PMs in my career. Most have been sub par, poor performers, can't even do IC work. The ones who can do IC work, can't think. The IC work is generally project management not product. They need someone to tell them directio...
As a PM I would say it is to delivery high quality product in less time. š°ļø
Indian. I am a SDE (backend) currently. ~2 yrs exp. 16 LPA and I work 40-50 hrs a week. I like where I am, but I am not feeling the zeal for tech anymore. Probably will do a MBA down the line (thinking abroad, not sure)
Looking for equ...
