Powerranger34
Powerranger34

Working at startups is terrible

I recently worked at a startup and it was terrible.

To be honest, I still worked at one of the better ones but it just sucked.

Some of the clear downsides I see

  • Survival mode leads to chaos. You can be treated anyway and asked to leave whenever even though you left big opportunities to be here
  • Brand loss to find next job (Big problem)
  • Trying to make you feel unworthy(Doesn't bother me but I have seen people lose self confidence)
  • Loss of opportunity to build real skills like building sustainable teams for the long run

I think over all working at a startup especially early teams is a losing proposition. Do it only if -

  • you know the founders/team well
  • you know the industry and market well and it is a bet you personally believe in
  • you are secure enough in life that if you go back to your job, you will easily get employed

For middle class kids, startups are the worst bets one can take.

6mo ago
Powerranger34
Powerranger34

Much of the upsides people mention do not exist ot matter as much

  1. Financial wealth building -

VCs invest in 20 companies and one works out. You as an individual will have to work in too many startups to have the upside.
Odds are stacked against you

  1. Growth

The skills you learn at startup especially non tech ones may not be that useful because they fail at scale. You don't get to manage large teams which is a problem

  1. Growth

The Growth is often an illusion. Sure you get a larger title at a small or. But the moment you will go back to large org they will move your title to the same.

jake_peralta_B99
jake_peralta_B99

I agree on 1. But that's the bet you take when you get into a startup 2 and 3 - maybe true for non tech, but definitely in tech it isn't. It's very lucrative, you scale up pretty fast

Powerranger34
Powerranger34

Yes, it is better for tech.

javajack
javajack
Student6mo

I could relate to this post. Working at an extremely profitable startup.

My experience has been a hit and miss. Joined almost like a founding team member but without confounder level leverage.

Joined at the below market salary, ESOPs were a verbal promise but no clarity on volume and value until recently when it was given, it got low balled.

No title promotion as I had almost the same YOE as the co-founder boss.

The grind, effort, hustle, stress all were equally the same as the co-founders or may be more as early employees.

But the non linear rewards are only for founders not the employee.

Just got to know that the amount of salary cut I had taken, had I invested the same amount back when the company started I would have gotten more shares as a seed investor!!

I'm still grateful that I got to build a team that respects me and that's the only motivation ( alongside the average cash increments in the last few appraisals ).

After making the startup profitable, the founders develop a god syndrome and play information asymmetry game.

They forget that it's the people below them whose goodwill and grind gave them their current success.

Powerranger34
Powerranger34

The non clarity on ESOPs sucks so much.
Makes one feel betrayed.

Glad you found some solace in the team you built.

StormKeeper
StormKeeper

Totally relate to the non clarity on esops. I think information asymmetry is being used as a tool by these companies.

MightyLazyGeekStar
MightyLazyGeekStar

Experiences vary from people to people. It seems you ended up at a place where there was no direction.

Powerranger34
Powerranger34

I think that is the norm not exception going by everything around. Just recently seeing people post about their HealthifyMe experience.
I am sure some good ones exist but that is few and far in between.

batman_on_leave
batman_on_leave

And you are a recruiter 😂

bond007
bond007

You want to play with fire 🔥 then join startups which maybe highly rewarding. You want to stay chilled like ice 🧊 then join good service based companies having good long term projects which may or may not be rewarding.

Lowser
Lowser

There are many good product based MNCs also out there and they even pay good. E.g. Service Now, Freshworks, microsoft, google, salesforce etc.

CuriouslyCatty
CuriouslyCatty

Freshworks doesn’t have a very good culture though. They are known to have biases for Tamilians and it gets super chaotic. The company is struggling to maintain share price. Have not hear very good things about ServiceNow either.

FunnyBones
FunnyBones

It has its place in everyone’s career ladder but ya I haven’t seen long tenured folks in startup unless they’ve too much at stake (esop/equity).

CuriouslyCatty
CuriouslyCatty

Razorpay has a lot of them. All of them were hired in the boom of 2020-21 with great CTCs and have sizeable ESOPs. Now they are stuck - bahar jayenge toh na wo title milega aur na utna compensation. They have become ADs, Directors and SDs. So they have stuck on, and have created a fiefdom of their own, making sure that no one else can ever create an impact.

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@CorpCultureSucks Damm didn’t knew thi

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