Fuck the 8 Hour workdays?

It’s should and will always be about how productive those hours actually are. You see, no knowledge worker puts out more than 2.5 to 5 hours of real work in a day. That’s 12.5 to 25 hours of productive work in a week. The rest? It’s just meetings, updates and moving things around. Five-day work weeks? If you’re measuring by butts in seats, sure. But if you’re looking at actual output, it’s a joke. We need to obsess over productive time, not clocking hours. The attendance/week hours mindset is a pseudo-metric killing the workforce, making us focus on quantity over quality. Think about it: As a knowledge worker - your days are filled with meetings, status updates, and email threads. How much of that is real, impactful work? Very little. We’re stuck in busyness, mistaking it for productivity. But then again, if orgs obsess on outcomes only, employees will call them out: 'You don’t see my effort to go from A to Z, you don’t acknowledge it.' Hence, orgs measure you by hours. And for those thinking, 'Pay me by hours, overtime factored in' – great on paper, but useless for knowledge workers. IMHO, we are way more more comfortable measuring by hours than outcomes. We rave about deep work, about focus hours, but in reality we laude how long someone stays logged in. Weird isn't it.

I do agree with him though. Can't build great things without putting in great amounts of work

Let's ask Modi ji to make this a law. Everyone should work 84 hours per week. All of us have wasted too much time in the last 10 years already.

Why can't we trust people to do their thing without turning the workplace into big boss. I signed up for a job, not a 24/7 surveillane I get it, productivity matters, but so does sanity. I'd rather have the freedom to get my work done without feeling like I'm being spied on. As long as I get work done on time. Does it matter how much hours I put in? Everytime I login I feel like I am being watched. This is making me go insane.

So I was working wfh since past year and recently shifted to a project after a promotion, it’s a nice project and something I was looking forward to work with, but now my reporting manager says that you have to clock atleast 8 hours daily at this tracking software ( Nippon Buddy ). And I’ve to report to office 12 days a month, that’s okay but this 8 hours capture time is kinda nuts. Do you guys have these kinda policy as well or is it just at service based companies ?

I am one of the top people pay wise in my team but I don’t want to put in crazy work hours… like I earlier wanted to when I was in my 20s. Am I wrong?

I thought I was the only one frustrated with meetings until my colleagues also mentioned they were not able to get work done because most of the day was spent on meetings Plus our boss (CEO) loves talking, anyway the meetings are agenda-less. He stretches 30 min calls to 2 hours and then has the audacity to question the productivity. Cannot tell me this, he gets very touchy when feedback is negative for him. And then writes sarcastic messages. Also, who wants to take up fights with person who pays your salary What to do in this case? I'm tired of working 12 hours each day

Hi Folks, has making a 9hour workday become a standard practice in all offices? This is sucha shitty role.. why can we just finish our work n leave? Why do we have to stay n complete 9hrs as it’s some school.