Bro be a good coder, No sense becoming Project manager.

Not be offensive of anything but this is an avg career path that most Indians look for when entering tech field. Majority of the people I come across in this field have only one goal, become a PM. 0 passion and the work they do is sub par at best.

Software Engineer

I don't know where you got the stats that the majority choose to become PM. You can become PM from SWE even after 5-6 years in Software Engineering but vice-versa is not possible. Choose software Engineering, spend 2 years in  industry then only you will better know which field is better for you.

I'm a 4th year Btech CSE student, I want to be a project manager.  I want to know, can freshers become product/project managers (being from a tech background without an MBA)  and being a product/ p...

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I'm a 4th year Btech CSE student, I want to be a project manager. 
I want to know, can freshers become product/project managers (being from a tech background without an MBA)
 and being a product/ project manager in the tech field do we need to master DSA. 
If freshers can get a job as a product /project manager then what is the right path.

4th year student 🙋: plz assist

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Which companies are hiring for APMs?
I have some product building experiences in a couple of early stage startups. Confused on the approach to get into Product roles.
FYI: not from BITS :/

How can a fresh engineering grad get into Product Management?

Software Developer

Saw some misguided student post about PM internships. This is for anyone considering a PM internship.

DONT.

A fresher should not be going into Product Management. Focus on building hard skills first. You need an edge/alpha in your career strategy while reducing risk.

Atleast work for 1 year in the industry in a hard skill role. Then, think about transitioning.

This does two things.

1. You have a core differentiator compared to other candidates: Engg/ Design/ Sales/ Data Science/ Analytics.

Having a PM internship is not a good enough differentiator. No company would hire a Product Management intern over someone with hard skills in another domain. 

Product is different. In SDE, it makes sense to have multiple internships as it gives confidence to the recruiter that you’ll be able to do your job.

In PM, no recruiter worth their salt will consider a PM internship contributing to you being a successful PM. Your internship doesn’t contribute anything meaningful to its ability to communicate your skill.

2. You realise if you’re getting into a field because it’s a fad or you’re genuinely interested in it.

I’ve seen many such freshers switch into product and get into suboptimal orgs. Don’t. Do your career a favour and work on your hard skills. That alone will contribute a lot more to your Product Skills than some poor internship.

As a GPM at Gojek, I will never hire anyone who has done a PM internship unless they have a solid track record in a hard skill based role.

You can only be a good “enabler“ if you can empathise with a “builder”. 

Can you be a PM out of college, YES? Should you? NO.

You’ll realise this later in your career. First gain experiences building/enabling real products, you’ll thank yourself for that when it helps you build better Products. 

Also, stop listening to these charlatans who masquerade as Product Gurus. They are out to make a quick buck. Don’t do these Product Courses. It’s all a farce. First, get some experience and then you’ll know

Why you shouldn’t do PM internships?

Product Manager

I am a 2024 batch student currently doing my third product management internship, I am building my tech skills like having grasp on SQL as well , i want to land a good entryr level product role right after college or an APM program , please help me and tell how can I enhance my skills as well , i am tier 3 college student from a mechanical engineering background. Also tell me how can I prepare for upcoming APM programs

Regarding entry level product role

Please let me know about the companies looking for product managers/analysts for freshers. Internship and FTE roles both are to be considered.
Thanks.

Any company hiring for Product Roles for freshers?

Welcome to Software Engineers's Private Community

Background:

Tier 1 college, Branch - Civil, 2018 passout, Presently working at a state govt PSU with around 11.5 LPA CTC (salary part only, excluding medical facility which is decent)

Things I like at the present job:

1. Home state posting all throughout the career
2. Easy to take leaves and can mostly go home on weekends
3. Good work life balance.

Things I don't like:

1. Rural posting (as of now, will change in future)
2. Repetitive kind of work - not challenging enough and hence limited growth (I guess this is true for most PSU jobs)

Why thinking of the switch?

1. Civil was never really my passion - just what I got.
2. Taking the job was mostly due to family pressure of doing govt job.
3. Liked programming during school days, did web dev work in college fests.
4. I do like the process of building something up and also learning new things, and am hence beginning to feel tech is something that would suit me. 
5. Salary and fomo factors are there but not significant enough. 
I feel I have not been taking enough risks and hence am not being rewarded enough. I want the thrill of grinding and progressing in life.
 
What's stopping me then?

1. Obviously, the safety and protection of a secured job is difficult to overcome.
2. Family wants me to settle now, but I don't.
3. Recessions like this where layoffs take place even for skilled people due to factors not in one's control.
4. The fact that I might have to take a paycut, to begin in this career.

So what should be the path to take?

1. Learn DSA, make projects and apply. Could use my network (although very very few of my batch are in tech, most are in analytics, finance, core sector) to begin somewhere and switch
2. Go for M.Tech in tier 1, and hence aim for product based companies.

I am more inclined towards option 2, as the tech job market being what it is now. I am ready to slog for 2 -3 years (mtech preparation, mtech and then placement)

Please help me out with your views and suggestion.

How to switch career from PSU job to SDE

Hi,
I am a final year B.Tech student from Tier 1.5 college. Finding my way hard through SDE opportunities.
I was thinking of going for Product Roles (Management/Analyst/Consultant). I have good business acumen and worked in management, content creation fields in college societies, but how can I enter into Product roles. 

Please help me guide through what steps I should be taking regarding preparing my resume, LinkedIn profile, applying to off-campus opportunities(domestic/abroad).
Any inputs appreciated 🙏🙏

Please guide me for Product Roles

Hey,
I am SDE with 2YOE getting 10LPA.
Here I could see many folks posting their CCTC as 30LPA, 35LPA or even beyond for 2-3years exp. 
How is it possible? What you guys work with?
How many of you guys have such high CTCs?
Plz share your journey so i can pick up good stuff from it. Thank you

Getting anxious when I look at CTCs!

I am a 2023 graduate and a product Enthusiast. I am from a top tier NIT but unfortunately no companies come for PM roles. I have no idea why. I have a placement in a very good company and a very good salary but im not satisfied because its not in Product. 

What are my options, what do I do? I am not at all interested in another rat race to the IIMs and MBA degrees. 
I just want to work and hustle. 

What can I do?? 

Appreciate all the suggestions. 
Thank you

How do I break into Product Management as a fresher.

Consultant

Tier 3 CS undergrad (Sophomore/Second Year)

I see most of my batchmates are into tech. None of them are interested in product management. So I wanted to give it a try. 

How to build a profile for PM? 

Also I don't find opportunities for PM at UG level and the ones which are displayed on LinkedIn etc. are only for Tier 1 students mainly IITs and IIMs.

How to break into Product?

I am working as a Technical Associate and have 2 yoe
How can I explore product management sector.
Any suggestions?

Need Advice

Business associate

I know the title might seem weird. But here’s my dilemma 
Working as an SDE with 3 YOE in an product based company remotely. Have some developer + PM experience in a small startup before
I never took DSA seriously and just learnt the basics a long time ago. I was appreciated at the startup about how I did PM work even though I wasn’t one officially. Shipped a couple of MVPs on my own as a side gig(had around 100-200 users) 

 I miss some big tech experience definitely. So should I grind DSA and look for big SDE switch even though I don’t like it much or move to product ( the pay might be affected) or do an MBA and then do product (for strong credentials/chances)? I feel maybe I am scared to do DSA/System design since I don’t find total interest in it. 

If DSA, any suggestion on a very good course, paid/free doesn’t matter.

My final goal - build great products and learn everything about what it takes to build them.
Thanks

Study DSA in depth to build world class products or become a PM?

Hey there!

So, I have a friend who's currently an Associate Project Manager at an MNC. 
He's been doing the technical thing for 1.10 years and recently moved into the APM role. (YOE:2.5ish)

The thing is, while the pay and work-life balance are good, he's not feeling all that jazzed about his work and wants to level up his career. 

He's got his sights set on a Consultant/Product Manager gig and wants our help to make it happen!

Here are a few questions we have, and we'd love to hear your thoughts:

1.Would it be worth it for him to go for an MBA, particularly at ISB, to snag that Consultant/Product Manager role?
2.Are there other ways he could make the transition without having to go back to school?
3.How do Project Manager salaries and work stack up against those of Product Managers?

Any insights or tips you could share would be much appreciated. 
Let's help this dude rock his career!

PROJECT MANAGER VS PRODUCT MANAGER

Project manager

Have more companies started asking system design to freshers?

What topics to focus on?

What should be a fresher approach, what to focus on: DSA/tech stack/system design

System design for freshers

PM with 5 years of experience, AMA

And does a long gap between graduating and finding a job play any factor in hiring?

What's the starting CTC of a fresher product manager in India with Education background from a Tier 3 college?

Hello everyone,

This is my first post. I am a recent graduate from NIT, and unfortunately, I haven't been able to get a placement. My career goal is to work in a Product Management (PM) role. As a fresher, I've taken the initiative to start learning about this industry

I have completed four courses in Product Management, covering areas such as:
- Product Analysis
- Go-to-Market Strategy
- Market Analysis

I am eager to apply my skills and start my journey in this exciting field. I am looking for opportunities  where I can further develop my expertise and grow as a Product Manager.

Any advice or leads on where I can apply to gain more experience would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you!

Need help for becomingal a products manager

Plase guide me for Product Roles

I am in my 5th sem of my engineering degree. Didn't start DSA neither did any development. Can anyone recommend where to start and how to start for both and any tips?

Need guidance

I am a final year mechanical engineering student who wants to get into product management, i have two internships and one certification but that's a different story as most of the people having better interships and skills are struggling to land an offer , i would be graduating in June 2024 and before that I want to land at decent product role at entry level , i have 6 months left what should I do , how can I stand out being a tier 3 college student with mechanical engineering background, i am learning and following product management since past 1.5 years

4th year student 🙋: plz assist

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