I'm Viram Shah, Co-Founder & CEO at Vested Finance. Ask me anything!
Hi Grapevine,
I'm Viram, currently building Vested Finance. I founded Vested in 2019 during my MBA at Haas, wanting to make global investing as easy and acces...
I have been on this journey for a long time now. Lots of failure comes with loads of learning. Each step or initiative I took has helped me grow as a person, the business guy (ed-tech, media space), and also in terms of technicalities (full-stack product management, hardcore hands-on into technology and I love user experience)
Ps: currently running an edtech startup in pre-seed/seed stage
Feel free to ask anything, would be happy to help even personally
How to land a job at a start up ? They start ups are for learning of generalists but deep down they want experience in the business such hypocrisy . Also why only tech colleges and experiences. In the same a person doing liberal arts ends up working in a tech start up but in India they only give chances to tech people
referral. in today’s market, if you don’t have a good pedigree, the only hope is referral. believe it or not, luck is a big aspect in landing a role as a fresher in startup today
hey, this is a most common question, especially from people of non-technical background.
Startups are fragile and got to move fast, depending upon the stage (pre-seed to A+) are in need of domain specialists. Generalists or business experience is a myth until you are joining in as a co-founder.
The lesser the team size the more the specialists are required. I won't look for an employee with business/marketing skills (for example) if I am hiring for a full-stack developer. I just want the employee to execute tech for me faster.
So how do you get in?
Hope this helps, it's a competitive market, dont be ordinary, try standing out and showcase work proudly.
Are you edtech or just another examtech , tution tech startup like vedantu and all other loss making... eventually I found that edtech can't make much money everyone wants to do the same thing... online coaching for UPSC ssc and all other exams..
I picked up Product management to help me get a better idea of different facets of building a product/business. Do you think PMing can help prepare for entrepreneurship?
You are on the right path,
Also make sure you don't dodge the development part, when you closely collaborate with developers it's a chance for you to understand technical building blocks and challenges of a product because it's good to have knowledge when you are essentially building tech startup.
but do remember PM creates a product mindset but not necessarily an entrepreneur mindset. There's a thin line between both. So, keep seeking inspiration from all over the world, join online communities, follow startup news and connect/follow with VCs/founders on LinkedIn.
I moved from engineering and built products at quite a scale. So, I’m quite covered in that aspect.
I fear the product mindset thing might be correct. Anything I should do to get closer to entrepreneurship mindset? What is it even?
What prompted you to do Ed tech startup when Byju and Unacademy exists? Curious to what drives individual who believe they can disrupt an existing highly VC backed ecosystem.
Especially considering that there's not much money out there for funding UA like the current biggies did it
Brilliant question!
You know there's one thing that goes in the business world especially the startup ecosystem,
One builds, multiple follows, everyone is just running a race to grab the market share with a different flavour in terms of TG or biz model. The recent disruption in ed-tech was upskilling, in 2019-20 we were the early players of it as well (we shutdown in covid since we started with physical training and distribution) and everyone talked with recently limits the conversation till upskill market only. Why not think beyond? The education sector is a limitless opportunity, multiple loopholes and you can surely come up with solutions beyond upskilling if you think more.
Regarding investments, there's always money available that can be raised, yes it has slowed down and Ed-tech is cold right now. But numbers are everything, if you are able to make money and show traction (early signs of demand or early pmf) you are good to go.
We love and are passionate about Ed-tech, upskill was an eye opener for us, so we are onto our next journey.
Thanks for answering. Wish you all the best!
How do you validate a business idea?
problem > solution > identify set of target users > build > identify KPIs > distribute to target users > get feedback > iterate > keep narrowing target users till you find your ideal user who is willing to pay or is your fan
What about B2B startups? Same flow?
How are your dealing with CAC in your current Edtech company?
We prefer not to sell courses directly in this highly saturated market. It's just not worth to burn on those conversion campaigns. Instead try a combination of campaigns+free content/tools which can assist user in the context needed.
this will lead to brand awareness and getting to know their needs at the same time, iterate the audience variable and source until you find the right distribution.
Why do you think EdTech is crumbling in India? I have my own opinions about this, but I would love to hear from you in this anon environment where you could speak out even politically incorrect stuff about the sector.
Ed-tech is suffering due to two reasons: primary being other sectors taking over (Generative AI, fintech, climate tech) and Failure of Byjus (they went on an acquisition spree and things went south)
This all is just temporary, a bump, so we need not worry much. Education is always a booming sector since it is basic need sortof.
Agree .. this is temporary , and most of the comments and elsewhere is that Ed Tech has no future .. I believe it is just different models being tried in volatile situations( pre covid ..Covid and post covid ) .. Cannot write of ed tech due to current scenario .
Really? Another edtech?.
Haha yes, but Ed-tech is not synonymous to upskill or marketplace, there are many opportunities out there, you need to look deeper and identify problems.
How much did you make, was your business profitable(at some point)? If so, what went wrong?
We cracked our distribution channel early-on (source of user acquisition), and upskill vertical in edtech was just getting started, hence we hit profitability within the first cohort itself (we were cohort based upskilling model)
We hit 1cr revenue within 2 cohort and then the Covid hit. Since our distribution (we used to conduct an entrance test to filter candidates) and training both were physically done, we hit a speedbreaker and hence had to transition online within next few months, since we were bootstrapped we couldn't survive due to heavy cash burn and had to shut it down.
Very similar experience This is my third startup, been two years now with this one and still in the early stages.
The first two were full of learning and got an understanding on what not to do.
Happy to see people from similar backgrounds 😊.
All the best 😊
Good to hear from a fellow entrepreneur always, wish you the best my friend 📈💪
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