BouncyBoba
BouncyBoba

Are ESOPs worthless?

Funding winter has taught us that cash is king. How should one negotiate ESOPs now that it is clear that almost all unicorns are overvalued? Startups are still peddling ESOPs to new employees at 2021 valuation which will get corrected sooner or later.

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CosmicDumpling
CosmicDumpling
InMobi23mo

It is rare to see buybacks and IPOs in India. I have seen VPs and early employees hold millions in paper money waiting for a way to cash it since 5-10 years.

Transitioning to a public company like the FAANGs makes your salary 2x automatically since the stocks become relevant

WobblyNoodle
WobblyNoodle
InMobi23mo

Public stocks also come with a risk.

A friend joined coinbase when it's stock price was more than 300$, now it's around 50$. His stock component went from 20 lpa to less than 3 lpa.

Same with many other publicly listed companies.

Cash is definitely the king. So high base is important and RSUs/ESOPs doesn't benefit most of the people.

FluffyNugget
FluffyNugget
Plivo23mo

Risk is there but at least u can cash out

GroovyMarshmallow
GroovyMarshmallow

Yes

ZestyMarshmallow
ZestyMarshmallow

Yes totally

SillyDonut
SillyDonut
TCS23mo

Half your ESOP(based on valuation correction by BlackRock for Indian start-ups) and yes then it may be useful

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by JazzyBagelProduct Manager

Are your ESOPs worth it?

My profile: EX. Founder turned Product+ strategy person YOE: 5+ ESOPs: 80 lakhs Cliff: 1 year Vesting period: 48 months

I am still thinking after how many years it will be valuable given the liquidity is very rare for ESOPs. Any thoughts?

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by BouncySushiGojek

Salary expectation at early stage startup

I have 6 years experience. My current base/fixed is 60 LPA. (I also got a 5 lakh bonus and 5 lakh of my ESOPs vested this year making my total vested about 30 lakh. So the total comp is 70).

I'm being offered a senior engineer positi...