BouncySushi
BouncySushi

Salary expectation at early stage startup

I have 6 years experience. My current base/fixed is 60 LPA. (I also got a 5 lakh bonus and 5 lakh of my ESOPs vested this year making my total vested about 30 lakh. So the total comp is 70).

I'm being offered a senior engineer position in an early stage startup (as part of the founding engineer team). They haven't given an offer yet.

Being early stage, the emphasis will most likely be on ESOPs. How do I evaluate this and set my expectations? (If I were to switch to a mature company, I believe the hikes usually are between 15-20%? How does this work for early stage startups?)

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WigglyBanana
WigglyBanana

I would typically expect a lower cash component and 0.5-1% of their ESOP pool at your experience.

Thats what you should negotiate for.

WigglyBanana
WigglyBanana

If you decide to move to an early stage startup that is

BouncySushi
BouncySushi
Gojek14mo

Thank you. Is there a reason for them to not disclose the ESOP pool size or how many ESOPs I'd get etc? I'm only being told some current INR value of the ESOPs but not the number of total ESOPs issued etc. I tried asking this but I only got "you'll get x lakh worth of ESOPs"

FluffyQuokka
FluffyQuokka
Dunzo14mo

If you see the startup being successful, u should join even with < 5% hike in base. Ask for more ESOPs they should generate much more wealth for u compared to salary (if the startup succeeds or raises funds where u can get a good exit that is)

BouncySushi
BouncySushi
Gojek14mo

Would you accept if the offer was 55 lakh with 40 in ESOPs?

FluffyQuokka
FluffyQuokka
Dunzo14mo

I would be more inclined towards saying yes. Depends on

  1. Current valuation is not too bloated
  2. Founders are reliable or business idea is profitable in the long term
  3. You can afford to take a risk from your personal life/ finances point of view
SillyBurrito
SillyBurrito

You already have 6 years of experience with a great salary.

Why run after ESOPs? When you negotiate equity, there’s a huge difference between these two

I would shoot for getting 1 percent equity in the company

DancingSushi
DancingSushi

Could you elaborate more here? Difference in 20L of ESOPs at a unicorn valuing in Bs and 20L worth of equity at an early age startup?

SwirlyBoba
SwirlyBoba

valuation multiple (factor of multiplication between 2 rounds of funding) in early stage is higher. It is 5-8x for seed to A If OP gets 50Lakh of esop at seed valuation, it will instantly become 2.5cr if series A is secured at 5x valuation of seed valuation.

This multiple keeps decreasing strongly with every stage of funding.

DancingBanana
DancingBanana

Don't go unless you have a personal runaway of 2 years.

BouncySushi
BouncySushi
Gojek14mo

What do you mean? It's not going to be ESOP only though. There's going to be a cash component as well (they have a round of funding already. Around 8 million). I'm just trying to understand what's realistic to ask as my cash component

ZestyPotato
ZestyPotato

If they already 8 million dollar in the bank, I think you can have a better cash component.

SleepyRaccoon
SleepyRaccoon

Man, sometimes I feel I am missing out on a lot by being in an MNC. I feel like I should also join the bandwagon and join a startup.

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