The feedback is shit.. whatever you write the percentage has been already been decided.

Software Engineer

Growth Manager

I have seen my manager hasn't read any of the peer reviews! Feedbacks is given based on his perception of my work and my visibility.  Even the compensation is based on it. Peer reviews don't mean jack shit!

Ya those feedback are another unnecessary procedural burden. I am curious if even performance reviews are ignored or what

Consultant

Ghanta sala. Perspective of the managers can’t be changed ever.

So i work for a performance review based software (global) and based on the insights people do take that seriously specially for the large scale comapny

I am not sure who are the people you refer to. It might be like the global leadership people who get to view it with some analysis or numbers. Someone high up the chain may get it personally reviewed by them but otherwise it feels waste of time

Nobody reads them. Probably some managers skim through. But it’s all merely a formality, for the sake of maintaining records.

Software Architect

Just wondering if the things we write in biannual or annual review against objectives or in general  is read by anyone? I have been told in the past that no one bothers reading it as long as manage...

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Just wondering if the things we write in bi-annual or annual review against objectives or in general - is read by anyone? I have been told in the past that no one bothers reading it as long as manager is clear about your work. Maybe if you’re up for promotion then it’s possible that the things u wrote are read. Although peer feedback + manager feedback (verbal) takes more precedence. 

So is this writing down just part of evidence collection?

Does anyone even read what we write in performance review?

Does anyone even read what we write in performance review?- Grapevine

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The job market has not been good for the last 12-15 months, but organisations around are offering good severance to their employees and aiding them for their next steps. But UC conducts "performance reviews" twice a year, which is basically a platform for managers to wage a personal vendetta against the "low performers"(read: people who don't suck up to them). And hence, they strategically 'ask people to leave', in return of making sure that terms like 'fired', 'laid off' would not be associated with them. So, people put in their papers, and serve the one month notice without working, and get that salary as their 'severance'. 

Leadership team goes on to boast the fact that there hasn't been any layoffs in the company. Well, fair, because one needs to own the fact that they've laid people off, and funnily enough one of the UC values is 'ownership', and managers do OWN the indifference to the sudden absence of a certain team member from meetings. 

Apparently, people perform fine till the time these half yearly reviews are conducted, because there isn't any concern about their performances in the regular one-on-ones with the managers, but cometh the review, cometh the concerns with performance. Managers nit pick over employees not responding within 15 minutes to their messages. Also, there isn't a 360° view of performance, so your peers, who work much closer to you don't have a say in your performance.

UC brags a 'meritocratic' culture, and rightly so, where ones merit is their ability to show their work as 10x of what it actually is, appearing to be busy with a completely packed calendar, and always saying yes to whatever manager says, even if it means bending over backwards for them. 

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Urban Company - A spineless org with hypocrite leadership & incompetent middle management

Software Developer

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Performance reviews

So I'm a developer, say for example working with a specific language like C#. Over the year I worked on enhancing my skills in C# and also dabbled over to look into other domains like AI/ML. What all should I mention in my performance review feedback? Is it wise to show that I went beyond my job requirements and learnt about new and upcoming domains where the product is currently not focused on? I also did some side projects and built some Android apps for fun. Does it make sense to add them too, to indicates that I'm not restricted to just one language or framework. Any suggestions what should/can go and what should not?

What to share what not to share in performance review feedback?

Data engineer

What’s the best way to approach a performance review?

In the recent performance review, shitty manager gave bad review.  Though worked very hard the last whole year. Brought this to skips  notice, but he's not ready to hear what I have to say, just speaks what  manager has to say ( probably not to hamper his relationship with the  manager). This manager is very careless and has no idea what's going on  in the team.. Other colleagues who did less than equal to work as mine  got better rating than me due to their manager being good.   

Lost all hope and motivation to work. What should I do?? If I quit  now the market conditions are too bad. Did not learn anything much in  this shit company..   

Looking for advice..

Bad rating inspite of doing good work. Next steps?

I have been put on PIP (Performance Improvement Programme) . 

It's a 3 month long thing, I have to show improvement, if I don't, I will be let go. 

They are saying that my technical skills are weak and I need to spend time outside my work brushing up those skills. If I improve then good else they'll let me go. 

Things escalated this much because my team lead complained that because of me, he had to rework certain things in the project which increased the timeline.

And he did this to save himself. He has been working on another task alone by himself since a month. I had no involvement in that, yet he's taking so long himself. To hide his shortcoming as a team lead, he is using me as a shield.

Now my dilemma is, should I focus on proving my worth to the company or should I just keep applying for jobs?

Considering the current market situation, what would be the best way for me to look for jobs?

I have been put on PIP

Last year i moved to a product based company from a service based so naturally the first 6 to 7 months were hard on me in terms of not only learning the work culture but also understanding complex systems. Then when i started to get a grab on things i was shifted to a new team. Where it did not take me much time to get a hold of things as i had now understood the nature of my work. But during my annual performance review my manager comes up and tells me that you are being judged for the entire year and he absolutely hammered me in my review. To make matters worse he even told me of a PIP that i was going to be pit into. Now at this point i know that the work is not that difficult for me as i  own a module which i have slogged on for the last 6 months. I feel cheated and sad as my performance is not bad rather it is good. Even he acknowledged that but still he is doing this. What should i do? I have been feeling absolutely gut punched and have lost my confidence i know myself that i had faced problems initially but that was due me trying to figure out how things work but since i was dumped into another team my visibility got 0. He does not even know who i work with or reviews my work, and yet he is adamant on putting me in a PIP. I want to resign and leave. For the last 3 months i have worked for min 10 hours and this is the reward i get for putting in all the effort.

Any suggestions would help

Feeling down

Backend Engineer

As the title suggests, does it make sense to talk about a colleagues’s inability to deliver to my manager. The colleague’s incompetence to take ownership is very evident now to everyone and the manager is not taking any steps on it. Others have to basically cleanup and babysit him. Worse part, this colleague gets paid the highest in the team. At this point it’s just breeding resentment across the team. How to handle this situation? Any tips. Early stage startup, the manager is part of the founding team.

Should you confront your manager about a colleague’s incompetence?

Do not get involved. Try to minimise your own additional work due to that colleague. In one-to-one meeting with manager, let the manager know. Use the words: I just wanted to bring your attention to one more matter. Then describe the challenges that you face. Not your team. Do not gang up, do not conspire or collaborate. Do not mention about how other colleagues feel the same way. If your manager takes a negative opinion of these activity, you'll be fucked, because such a thing would create a negative impression. If the manager is not inclined to go by your judgement of your colleague's competence, you'll lose face. But it's much easier to control the narrative and restore your manager's confidence in you in a one-on-one conversation, than when it's a group mutiny. No matter what others tell you, do not get encouraged. People often sound like they're with you, but they often are not. They won't back their statements, and you'll be alone holding the bag. And moreover, if you stay out of it, you'll be able to carry the high ground of being above the fray, out of politics, and being balanced. Don't do netagiri of this sort. Conserve it for initiatives for which getting consensus is harder. It might be possible that you're the only one feeling so strongly about it. Then you may be in need of a weekend, or someone to vent to, or even therapy. But get your hate in check.

Product Manager

Generalist

Almost 50% of the org got no increments
People with "exceeds" rating got single digit increments
Only promotion cases have got early to mid double digit increments
Promotions have been significantly fewer this time, max people have been told to hold off their expectations of promotions for another year

The reasons cited were economic slowdown, other companies like Microsoft, Flipkart, swiggy, Amazon doing the same and cost cutting. I think things are getting toxic and the majority of employees have been left disappointed.

Razorpay increments - sad state

Founder

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Do Company annual awards really reflect your efforts? Does your influence on your manager play a role?

Company awards

I have an onshore counterpart, one level above me. We two are setting up the project and conducting workshops. The problems I have are:

1. I work in the B shift from 2 PM to 11 PM since the client is in PST. But i login usually at 10-11
2. My onshore counterpart works in EST but logs in very late.
3. Although I work in the B shift, I often extend until 1 AM because I am preparing all the PPTs and doing research. I have to explain everything I do daily for 2-3 hours. She schedules meetings during the PST afternoon to present that work.
4. It has been 2 months of the same routine. In every weekly stand-up, she gets appreciation as if she did the work and research, without giving me any credit.
5. I can escalate the issue, but no one will listen because she has been here for 12 years, whereas I joined a year ago. She has strong networking with the leadership, which I lack.
6. I can ask for release, but I like this project and have provided solutions for some challenging gaps. I feel very bad because I work for 16-18 hours per day. She could schedule the meeting in the PST morning, but she purposely schedules it in the PST afternoon and gets the credit for my work.

PS: i saw her creating a transcript to read during the meeting

Do people like this really exist? If you have personal commitments, why come to work? Don’t you have a conscience and feel guilty about stealing credit for others’ work? Nowadays, there are many posts related to stopping gender-based reservations. Is it because of situations like this?

Struggling with Credit Thief Daily😒

Associate Manager

Hi all, its going to be my first year of appraisal at Acko. Would like to understand how it works ? 
How much is the appraisal in general?

Acko appraisal

How to deal with situations where you have given your best and contributed a lot to the project/Organisation (which is tangible) but the efforts don't get reflected in your performance appraisals and promotions due to office politics? 
You don't get promoted because the boss's favourite needs to be promoted despite sub-par performance.
Shifting the job isn't an option for a few years considering responsibilities, lack of good paying jobs in finance and the Organisation is really good.

How do you deal with bad performance reviews?

Chartered Accountant

I recently got placed in a good product based company and was assigned in Data Engineering team 1-2 weeks ago as an intern.

I always wanted to be a Software Development Engineer and I really like to develop applications, websites etc and I also really enjoy it. I even purchased an expensive system design book to learn and implement how they build scalable apps etc because I find it very interesting.

I never persued the data domain because I don't like stats and all the maths. Avoided AI/ML in college. Sure, I can work and learn about it in my free time, but I don't prefer it as a job right now.

I couldn't develop my interest in data engineering after researching about it online for hours. Yes, the stack is cool and different, they build pipelines and all but it looks boring to me. I also read few comments saying that freshers are rarely hired for this role and one should work as an sde for few years before switching to this domain, and also they are paid ≤ SDEs depending on the company.

What should I do now? Please guide me seniors🙏 Am I stuck in this forever or can I switch to SDE anytime I want? I am open to trying this role but then I am also scared that it'd may be too late or too hard to switch to SDE by then..?

P.s. This is my first job, never worked in a company before so I don't know how things work.

Got assigned in Data Engineering role as a fresher

Hi, I am working in a early stage startup and our CEO has established the culture of transparency where he shares every update regarding company funding, customer sales, revenue and answers all questions within company but one thing that has been bugging me is his micromanaging. 


He has integrated a bot in slack which ask for what did you do yesterday ? and what are you going to do today ? , Everyday


He also managed a spreadsheet of our tasks and takes the exact estimate in days makes a calendar view there and keeps asking up to update on our tasks progress in multiple meetings or on chat. 


I didn't had such experience in prior companies but he mentioned, such things were being followed in NyKa, DineOut, etc as well 

Does the well known companies like Phonepe, Uber, Zomato, google, amazon, Microsoft, De shaw, sprinklr follow this as well ? 

I just wanna check, is he doing too much or it this a standard in Indian companies ? 

Thanks to all whoever reply to this post, please share your current & past experience.

My CEO is Micro Managing Engineers 😡

Sounds like a daily standup update just in written format. 
 Or am I missing something?

Need advice from the community.

I had my performance review with my manager last week. The broad feedback was something like this- in her mind, if I'm given any task, she knows it will be done and done well, meeting all expectations. She acknowledged that I'm sincere, hard working and don't cut any corners with my work. But will the task be done ++, she wasn't sure.

I've been moving from fighting one fire to the other and never really got a chance to settle in one project, barring one, which my boss says I truly aced. Most of my colleagues believe I've done a stellar job and deserve the top rating but I didn't get that from my manager. 

My last 1:1 was almost 6 months back and all this time I never really got an indication that 'more' was expected. In fact when I was pulled into projects the only thing I was told was to 'look into this and resolve' without clear goals.

I understand this year reviews are tight at most startups but I was left wondering where this came from and what to make out of it. I'm due for another discussion next week. 

Any advice on how to proceed?

Does anyone even read what we write in performance review?

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