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Fair Pay?

Big startups paying similar to 1+ YOE peeps as they do to freshers in the name of their T1 Colleges and same job title. Experienced peeps do bring a lot to the table ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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by RealGenZ

Stealth

People way overestimate the life of founders

IIT grad here building a venture backed startup. I think 99% of folks here believe that venture backed founders are super entitled and in a much "cosier" position than employees Just sharing a few facts about our journey so far if it helps anyone improve their perspectives- 1) Paying ourselves 33% of our campus salary & 60% of what we are paying to our employees (Talking about Pure Base Salary here, not including ESOPs) 2) Insane stress - You basically have to raise money to build (esp if its deeptech because of the high fixed costs) and there are predefined metrics you have to always chase, sometimes just beyond yourselves. Your product will be copied if it's good because well, they always have more money than you. You work 7 days a week for insane hours, chasing metrics required to be "afloat" 3) 99% of venture backed startups result in 0 liquidity gain for founders. So basically in all likeliness, everything is for a net negative return compared to if we took the campus job So, when you wholeheartedly bash founders as if they are sitting On a goldmine while you are toiling for THEIR gold Treasure, just understand that more likely than not, there is not really any gold but rather an irrational hope they are clinging to Also, Yes-we pay above market to our employees (100% hike for the last one) but the truth is some startups just Can't afford it. And ironically, there is a much higher looking down on these startups with meagurely paid founders rather than giants like Tech Mahindra paying peanuts to their employees while having a 1000% salary hike for the executives. Yeah, most startups need to do better but please appreciate if someone is atleast trying to do better because trust me, it's INSANELY HARD.. The number of posts I see about Flipkart making hundreds millionaires is way too less than the ones I see about pinpointing at every single mistake early stage startups do & I just wanted to express my opinion on it Peace!

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by SDEXO

Early Stage Startup

๐ˆ๐ฌ ๐ข๐ญ ๐›๐ž๐ญ๐ญ๐ž๐ซ ๐ญ๐จ ๐ฐ๐จ๐ซ๐ค ๐š๐ฌ ๐š ๐ฌ๐จ๐Ÿ๐ญ๐ฐ๐š๐ซ๐ž ๐ž๐ง๐ ๐ข๐ง๐ž๐ž๐ซ ๐ข๐ง ๐š ๐Œ๐๐‚ ๐จ๐ซ ๐š๐ญ ๐š ๐ฌ๐ญ๐š๐ซ๐ญ ๐ฎ๐ฉ?

Both environments have benefits and drawbacks. It really depends on your personality and goals. In a large corporation, youโ€™ll be surrounded by people with a wide variety of working styles, expertise, approaches and backgrounds. Youโ€™ll have access to more resources and responsibility will be shared with other team members. You will have opportunities available to you, but youโ€™ll likely have to pursue them yourself unless you have a really good manager supporting you. Otherwise, it can be easy to become a cog in the machine. The pressure is generally lower and so is the recognition. You can screw up royally and youโ€™ll probably just get moved to another project. Even if you donโ€™t screw up, you may find yourself shuffled between projects. In a startup, there will be more focus on you to deliver, train yourself and be independent. While youโ€™ll likely be part of a smaller, more integrated team, there will be a much higher expectation that you can be self-motivated and deliver results. The learning opportunities that you have will be more along the lines of being tossed out of a plane with some fabric and a sewing kit and youโ€™ll need to figure out how to make a parachute really quickly. The risks are higher, but so is the reward. Itโ€™s like the difference between taking the bus or riding a motorcycle. The bus is reliable and it will get you where youโ€™re going, you have very little control over the specific bus, route, the driver, the other passengers, etc. Youโ€™re unlikely to get injured in a crash. Itโ€™s safe, minimal risk and ultimately putting your fate in someone elseโ€™s hands. The motorcycle is fast, youโ€™re in control every step of the way, you could easily get yourself killed if you do something stupid and if the weather, roads or other drivers get in your way, youโ€™re not likely to get to your destination smoothly. But if you do, youโ€™ll beat

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by AlphaGrindset

Series A Startup

The Generalist - #1: Why you should not stay only in startups

Hi folks, thinking of writing a regular mini blog here about my learnings being a generalist in the ecosystem. I currently handle growth at an ecom startup and have previously been through 2-3 startups + a large corporate in my 7 year career. #1: Why you should not stay only in startups Recently started reflecting on salaries of many peers who are also startup folks and trying to see where it stands. There are 3 cohorts: a. People who started out in Big 4/Corporate & then became a generalist: They've been underpaid the most. First pay was 4-5L, and when they transitioned to startups, started at 7-9L. Over time, growing from there is difficult without MBA. b. People who have forever been in startups: They earn more than A on average. But here too, there is a delta in their salaries vs. people with same YoE who went to an MBA and are in corporate now. Side note: I've seen this cohort has usually loved what they've done, and being in startups definitely has positively impacted their thought process. c. People who went to a corporate/big tech etc. mid way: This cohort has done the best long term. Their pay got recalibrated when they went to a larger company in the middle through their career, and when they rejoined startups, they were respected more in salary negotiation. This is to anybody out there who is a generalist and sees a similar path. Try to sandwich a proper, large company in your career. It gives you perspective on whether you like it and if startups is really your preferred route. And it also recalibrates your pay. Startups will limit you basis your last salary. Corporates have standards basis bands. Just something to think over. NOTE: Do share feedback, if this makes sense. And if you'd like to read more of these too.