Hi, my friend did pm to design transition, he had to start from the bottom. 

Was pm at msft bing, and transitioned to a design studio at a really bad pay. In the end he is happy and is doing what he loves.  

Mostly you might need to take some pay cut. But as a dev you’ll recover the loses really fast.

Growth Manager

Guys I have around 2.5 yes if exp in Pming but I want to switch to dev role (backend engineering)  So should I apply to entry level SDE roles or my pm experience will be counted here?

Welcome to Software Engineers's Private Community

Guys I have around 2.5 yes if exp in Pming but I want to switch to dev role (backend engineering) 
So should I apply to entry level SDE roles or my pm experience will be counted here?

From PM to Dev

Product Manager

From PM to Dev- Grapevine

Welcome to Product Managers's Private Community

Had started my career as a android developer for 2 years. Was fairly good at it. Went for a MBA from IIM K and joined a fintech startup as a PM. Around 5yoe PM now

Keep regretting on and off how life could have been as a developer. 
1. Crazy salary- esp after covid. Almost every org ways way more to a dev than a PM
2. Lot of options in job market - Unlike PM where demand is far less than supply
3. Specialised role - unlike PM where there is literally no entry barrier
4. Hard skill - unlike PM where everyone keeps questioning the need of the role
5. Chiller life - unlike PM where failures are yours but success is team’s

Does anyone else feel the same?

Sde to PM. Regrets

Hi guys, need your help

I want to switch to the backend dev role, have pm experience of about 3yr 

So what should be the plan?

Inter company switch? Or any new company will consider my cv?

In PM, want to transition to Backend dev role

I suck at tech (or I think so). In the current job market how do I switch to a PM position?
What would be pros and cons
Earning: 37L base 
YoE: 4

SDE2 to PM

Software Engineer

Welcome to Data Scientists's Private Community

I am and sde. Earning less as I have to have wfh. 15-20lpa, currently in lead with about 6+ yoe. Plus some on the side. 

I am interested in data science. I have been studying.

But how do I make the switch.

Will my sde exp be counted?

Which companies to approach.

Should I do projects?

Please help.

How to switch

Software Lead

Indian. I am a SDE (backend) currently. ~2 yrs exp. 16 LPA and I work 40-50 hrs a week. I like where I am, but I am not feeling the zeal for tech anymore. Probably will do a MBA down the line (thinking abroad, not sure) 

Looking for equal or greater pay, similar WLB, new domain. Should I switch to PM and try a hand at it? 

Am I aware of the reality or living in my own isolated reality?

Switch to PM?

Hey everyone, excited to be doing this AMA!

A brief about me, I work currently as a Director of Product at an Indian unicorn startup 

About my career: 
- Did my undergrad from IIT and then masters from an Ivy league school
- Have been in product for almost 10 years now - across 2 Indian unicorn startups and a publicly listed company

Would love to take questions on what it means to be a PM, growing within the role, building your career, and other things :) 

Will be back here at 4 pm and start replying
Shoot away!

AMA 🎙️: Hey all, I am pmsprint, Director of Product Management at a Unicorn in India!

Hello Folks,

I'm currently working at Google, and I'm considering quitting for an MBA (expecting admits to IIM-A/B/C) to break into Product Management.

Honestly, I'm interested in it for industry exposure, the chance to climb the ladder quickly, and, let's be real, the fat paychecks.

I am currently not really earning at the level I should be, even at Google. Could someone with experience share some genuine insights?

Prod Man(after MBA) vs Google

Project Manager

I hope this post finds y'all well.

so I'm currently working as a SDET 2 in a product base startup and my total experience is 4 years and 10 months.
now I'm seeking a PM certification course from a reputed institute of India.

1) I want genuine opinions ( preferably from other PMs) as to whether it is the right move to switch from engineering to PM.
will it be worth the hassle ? 

2) also my current job is remote so are there decent remote PM opportunities or the role demands you to be in the office more 
( this Is an important factor) 

3) while making the switch would I have to compromise on the package since it's a role switch ? 
how much hike can I expect 
like I'm making X right now 20/30% on that ? 

would really appreciate genuine opinions.

SDET trying to become PM

Software Test - QA

Where can I find startups that are hiring for APM/PM roles with 1.5 years experience in SDE? Or is there someone who can refer?

APM/PM roles

Sharing some reflections on this:

1. Product is not a function with a large hierarchy / multiple levels in the ladder. Managerial responsibility comes in very late in the product career and the spans are typically small (relative to other functions like engineering, sales, operations). This also means a steeper funnel to the top and only a handful VP Product roles in the industry.

2. Product is centered around technology and digital consumer trends, both of which are fast changing. This requires constant unlearning and relearning. But more critically, this also means that previous knowledge/experience hits a plateau on marginal value beyond a basic threshold (where you have developed some essential product semse and skills).

3. Product managers are also much higher-paid vs other functional peers, at comparable years of experience. This means that a PM gets to a very high salary (say, 1+ crore) by the age of 40 (15-20y into their career). Tech functions in non-tech companies (like FMCG, banking) cannot offer that kind of pay, meaning salary growth beyond a point is limited to tech-first companies / limiting addressable market for lateral moves.

All of these considererd, how should PMs think about the longevity of their careers? Unlike traditional roles, this does not seem like a "retire at 60" job. What would be the realistic age one should plan for, at which career growth and salary growth will stagnate? What are ways in which a 80%ile PM can extend their career (eg: also taking up engineering management or P&L responsibility or growth function etc., to increase scope)?

PS: this post is not for the top 5-10% PMs. They will always find roles at VP level etc, this is for the 50-90%ile bucket of PM talent.

Longevity of a product career

Will commend you on a very well written and well articulated post. 
  
 Options for the future will be apparent at ~40.  Most peak roles will be achieved between 45-50. 
  
 Possible exits: 
  
 1. Running Category roles at companies which have a broad canvas, multiple product categories. 
 2. Deputing for and eventually running a P&L or a LoB. 
 3. Sales or more critically Customer Success.  Don't shy away from revenue responsibilities. 
  
 Engineering is a sharp left turn imo.  It's not an overlapping skillset at best and don't see how that is part of a PMs likely roadmap.

Sales Manager

Investor

How one can transition from SDE to PM and not in the same company?

SDE to PM

Hey people

I'm thinking of transitioning into PM or TPM role.
I've 5+ years of Software Engineering, 
I really like management side and have done alot of PM stuff in my previous and current org.

I make 3.5Ish monthly working in prod org.

SSE to PM

Hey grapeviners, I am a software engineer and earning pretty good, but I have always dreamt of becoming a product manager. I don't hold any MBA. So How do I transition from a software engineer to a product manager.

Software Engineer to a Product Manager

Data analyst (1.5 yoe) working mostly in query developments and power bi here. Can't hope for further growth in my current company (too much hierarchy). Currently brushing up python skills to boost up my resume. Any suggestion from experienced folks is highly appreciated.

Need suggestions to make a switch in data domains.

Data Analyst

AMA - 2 yrs SE + 9 yrs tech recruiter in product startups.

I have 3 yrs of experience after my graduation, 8 months of backend experience and  from past 2.4 months I am into  frontend project. 

Now I'm planning to switch trying to start preparation. I have ready with DSA rounds , coming with system design rounds I have a  confusion. Should I need to prepare for frontend or backend system design topics

If I joined in another company should i start my carrer as a sde2 or sde1. If i join for SDE2 position can i catch backend to team standard.

Career Guidance

Software Developer

Background: I work in a D2C consumer product startup, we have an in-house website and a growing tech team of 7 people. The whole business team is 100+. I'm a '23 grad from a tier 1 engineering college.

I joined the company back in September when the job market was at the bottom and I had to take a 40% pay cut (21LPA to 12LPA) (while switching (the last company ran out of funding). I was at a higher than avg base in my previous role but the current role is 20% below the average. (15LPA) The company is in a growth stage and lots of processes are yet to be defined which leads to a lot of chaos but I get a lot of freedom as well.

My manager is aware of the whole situation and we had also negotiated a 6-month review for ESOP allotment. My monthly reviews have been going well and we have shipped some good improvements and features over the last few months.

Only PM in the startup, how much appraisal should I ask for at 6 months?

Leads for PM intern or APM would be appreciated ( I am based out of Bangalore and my work experience is approx 2 years as a developer, now i am looking for transition ) .

PM / APM job leads

Assume you're currently enjoying your role as a jack of all trades. If your manager come and tell you that you need to choose whether you need to be a 
- Software Engineer
- Product Manager
- Program Manager
- Analyst
- Product Operations Manager

Which one would you choose? And why? 


Note: You're currently contributing to all of this in someway or the other, and the manager wants to ensure that you are also having a good career growth within the company, or you should be ready if you're looking for an external job.

The manager and the team is 100% in on supporting you on any of the above choice. 

[These are not random options, but came up because of the exposure to these domains and the related results delivered]

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