1. It's not a stupid question 
 2. It's your boss who's disrespecting your boundaries by texting on WhatsApp after work hours! You shouldn't be the one feeling guilty about it. What do they expect anyway, that you respond at 1am? 
  
 You've got to set strict boundaries, or else they'll just chew you up and spit you out when you inevitably burn out. 
  
 (More enlightened people than me can tell you what exactly to tell your boss to get your point across.)

Software Developer

Don’t take requests beyond work hours for a few days. Give some excuses if needed. After a few days, they will stop bothering you.

For the long term, change the team or move elsewhere. There are better people out there.

Get new number. Tell your friends and family to call on new number. Switch off this number after 6PM and also turnoff internet for whstaapp of this number

Analytics Manager

I know stupid question, but amidst all this WLB discussion I'm struggling to keep my work hours within working limits   We start work at 10 am, ideally 8 n half hours is 6.30 pm. By the time I wrap...

Welcome to Ask Grapeviners's Private Community

I know stupid question, but amidst all this WLB discussion I'm struggling to keep my work hours within working limits 

We start work at 10 am, ideally 8 n half hours is 6.30 pm. By the time I wrap it is 7.. 7.15.. 7.30 pm. Some colleague will need 'last minute help, EOD approvals are still pending, day end reports are yet to go from team etc

Then 7.45..8..8.30 pm boss wants to talk about important stuff that was missed during the day. If you don't answer on Slack, it will be on WhatsApp. And I'll be online on WhatsApp obviously, I have people to talk to. So if you don't respond, it's 'disrespectful'

Sometime, boss gets reminded of stuff at 12 - 1 am, he'll text 🙄 

I want strict 8 1/2 hours. How to achieve that?

How to manage work hours?

Growth Manager

How to manage work hours?- Grapevine

Welcome to Office Gossip's Private Community

My new manager at a new company works on weekends too. Comments in documents, sends mails and a bunch of other stuff. Sends mail at fucking 4 & 5 in the morning.

I feel pressured to work on weekends too because he is working. I'm already clocking 10 hour work days. How to deal with this situation?

About me - PM at startup.

Manager works on weekends

Stop it at the start. Don't put yourself out there, so they start considering your extra effort as normal or default.  
  
 Shut the laptop on Friday and open it only on Monday. Don't follow up on weekends which might become a habit and they expect you to respond on weekends. 
  
 Until they don't ask you, you don't respond. Also there could be multiple reasons why they prefer to work during certain times. 
  
 Once you break the boundary you have, there's no way getting it back again.

Product Manager

Welcome to Software Engineers's Private Community

Manager texts me on teams after work hours (we don't have login and logout) ,if I don't respond. He will text me on WhatsApp.
Do irritating,how do u guys maintain boundaries

Boss off hours shenanigans

Software Engineer

Welcome to IT Company Discussion's Private Community

I see a lot of posts about WLB, I want to know what do you consider as a decent WLB. I will go first.

1. Leave early if the work for that day is done
2. No pings and calls post work hours, there are always exceptions and thats okay, should not become a norm
3. Respecting when someone is in vacation and not disturbing them.
4. Not rejecting leaves 

I will add more in comments If more comes to my mind.

Work Life Balance

Rule of thumb  
 If you get work thoughts outside 9-6 or weekends, it's not WLB.

Software Test - QA

Computer Operator

How do you define work life balance boundaries at work? Everyone in my team works 10-12 hrs daily, it’s business as usual for them. I joined recently and it’s very problematic for me, I literally get no time to do anything else. 
I fear, that if I highlight this I’ll be singled out. 
Some people even feel very proud in doing so which I don’t understand. Don’t they want to go back home to their family and spend time with them?
Please provide guidance on how to set these boundaries and am I thinking right?

WLB boundaries at work.

I am thinking of leaving my current job and focus on myself, getting to know myself better etc. Currently I have enough money saved for my expenses for next 6-8 months. 
   Everyone I have asked about this say don't leave your job if you don't have another lined up, in this tech winter. I understand their view point. It aligns with what my parents think as well.

Is there anyone who has had done this in the past? Do you recommend this route? Are the consequences far too severe? Does anyone have a different opinion from one stated above?

Anyone ever left job without having another job lying around for their mental peace?

I'm in the same boat, on the verge of quitting, and will most probably take the leap next month.  
 Thanks for the thread. A lot of insights. It has made me confident that I'm not doing anything stupid.

Consultant

Rant 
I have this person who has been nominated as POC from New Zealand. I have been trying and chasing the person to schedule calls, and till now I have rescheduled 4 times because he is now showing up on the time slots HE communicated. Even though I adjusted my work schedules according to his time slots, given I start my work as per USA timing.
That's highly unprofessional. It goes like-
Me: Hey! Let me know what time suits you?
Him: my calendar is free from so and so. Please schedule 😃
On the day of call

Him: Hey can you reschedule to * absurd timings which don't suit IST* 
Or
Him: I'm unable to join, my calendar is blocked 

I'm so frustrated. I have messaged him ( in corporate speak) that I have already rescheduled so many times based on your schedule ( which you communicated) I would appreciate it if you show up. I am already working beyond my standard working hours for you.

Onshore employees have no time  respect for fellow Indians working in India

Why don't you do the same? Show you aren't someone to be stifled with? 
  
 Like say, hey, these are my working hours in whatever his local timezone time. I am most effective in this time. Let me know what works for you within this timeline so that we can effectively communicate and move things forward. 
  
 Remember, unless you take stand for yourself, no one else would. World is a selfish place to live in, and standing up for yourself is one of the most effective lessons you can learn.  
  
 If the person still suggests rescheduling, ask them to give a time within the slots you are free in. Before the call, 1/2 hour before, Just check in, if they would be joining

Analyst

Welcome to Indian Startups's Private Community

Work from home (WFH) has been really beneficial for me in terms of the flexibility it offers. I can manage my chores better, spend more time with my loved ones, and even travel while working remotely. 

But lately I have been getting bothered with the expectation to always be available. Gone are the days when one could “log out” in the evening and fully BE PRESENT where they were. These days, I get pings on Slack or WhatsApp messages for the smallest of things on late evenings and even weekends. 

It’s like work has slowly creeped into quality personal time. I love being present in the moment and this culture does not afford that option.

Working From Home wins and woes

Director Product

I've been thinking about how we're always connected to work these days. The line between work and personal time seems to be getting blurrier, with our phones constantly buzzing with work notifications. 

It's becoming a real challenge for many to truly disconnect and maintain a healthy work-life balance. 

I've personally struggled with this - just last week, I found myself answering work emails at on a Saturday, and it made me realize how much it's affecting my downtime.

In an age of constant connectivity, how do you manage work-related communication outside office hours? What boundaries have you or your company set to prevent burnout?

Slack won't let me Slack: How to unplug when your boss is just one ping away?

Context: I work at a startup, it's a pretty chill work environment, very flexible, hybrid model. Everything is great.

Problem: They take flexible work hours too seriously, I have meetings at 10 PM on weekdays and almost every weekend there's some work which they need the next day in most cases but apparently have to keep the meeting on the weekend with no prior notice.

I mean, i like going to office twice a week around 11-12 and coming back around 7, wfh when I have a few meetings that day but is it normal to work on weekends? and after work hours?

P.S. I've only been in this company for a month and joined as a fresher.

Now that I've put it down, this is such a gen z problem lol

But what should I do?

meetings on sunday?

Product Designer

I heard that the work culture at Deloitte is bad that people work for 15 hours a day? What's happening at Deloitte?

Work culture at Deloitte?

Delivery Lead

Anyone who has cracked it?

Gym 4 days a week. 
 6-8 hrs of work + Leetcode daily + any one other productive item 
 My recreation is music. Listening and playing, that happens in the last 2 hours of the day. It gets replaced with going out generally. 
  
 I also do a trade off between items daily, as per priority, so it sort of works out. 
  
 Anymore items and I breakdown and need a break. So avoiding burnout while being productive is a daily thing. 
  
  
 The one thing. Read this book 4 months ago, did wonders for me mentally.

Staff Engineer

For me 5 - I start by 11 and end by 7 but take an hour lunch break, 4-5 tea/coffee breaks and some gossips - I tracked one day and it was 5.2 hrs.


What about you?

How many hours do you actually work per day?

I have adhd so I don't (read : can't) work until 2 days before sprint is about to get over then wrap the stuff up with anywhere between 8-10 hours pn both days.

Operations Manager

Welcome to Business Roles's Private Community

Manager seems to give more work when I complete the assigned task in a short period. Should I do work at the pace of others in the team who work at normal pace or continue with the very fast pace. How to escape this deadlock.

Btw, I try to be fast paced in my work to maintain WLB and have some me time. 


Advise/Opinions please.

Workplace issue !!!

Hi everyone,

Is it possible to start working after 12pm in any big product companies in India? 

I know this is allowed in service based companies where their clients are in the US.

But would love to know the scenarios in big product companies as well. Please share your experiences and thoughts here. Thanks!

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