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by Dezi Carmden

3 months ago

I think I've f**ked up bad enough to wallow in my own emotions

I started out a career in sales and as my uni convinced me, 'it's a stepping to marketing and brand management.' Two years into this role and I'm already regretting it. 1. I don't get 40% of my salary if I don't close my numbers. (who the fuck says yes two $200k deal in one day?) 2. Going months without 40% of my salary translates to not being able to pay off my loans. At all. 3. I really really want to get into marketing. That's always been the deal. B2B companies don't do Marketing, all they have are events. 4. Job switch has become a hellscape. It's the you don't have enough experience 🔁 can't get enough experience. I am not even a fresher! 5. The system is designed in such a way that you just can't win. About to reach a multiplier? Bam, your quota just got increased. Go cry about it. I am stuck. Restarting from internships seems like a shit idea. Universities don't accept under 3 years for a second MBA. Cheers, I guess.

Anise Hyrum

Haldiram

3 months ago

Try to get into enterprise software sales. You can really make bank in sales but you have to be thick skinned.

Jordon Denver

Hewlett Packard

3 months ago

I am into Enterprise Software Sales. That is my current role. Unfortunately, more than half of my colleagues haven't met their quota (the last quarter begins next week). The thing, I am not cut out for sales. And I hate uncertainty of my own monies.

Dezi Carmden

Haldiram

3 months ago

Hmm. Try getting into growth or product marketing related roles. Will be tough but best wishes.

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Aaron Nadeen

Stealth

3 months ago

Start your own startup. Screw jobs.

Jordon Lee

Stealth

3 months ago

How much debt do you have?

Kendall Olive

Hewlett Packard

3 months ago

About 7 lacks for now plus interest. Incubating a start up is a good idea but not when I've got a pile of debt to clear off.

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Blair Carmden

Google

3 months ago

Damn. It’s the classic, start out in sales first and we will put you in marketing next Turns out only 5% of the jobs are in marketing and rest all in Sales :(

Jordon Olive

Hewlett Packard

3 months ago

It's like an MBA put a dent in my account; only for it to dig the grave deeper. Should've just stuck to being a computer guy, I guess. At least, I would've been able fill my pockets in the short run.

Karilyn Denver

Student

3 months ago

Try to break into a bigger logo with decent sales team culture - it'll be easier because leads are already halfway sold on the product (because it's a clear industry leader). It just sounds like you're in a bad company with sales leadership that's out to exploit the team. Increasing quotas to get out of paying multipliers is classic toxic sales leadership. There's better leaders and better teams out there. Don't give up on this just yet, it can make you a lot of money without giving up on your peace of mind, in the right company.

Anise Gabriel

Hewlett Packard

3 months ago

I happen to be working for a company that has the best company culture 'out and about.' Perhaps it has more to do with my team? The thing is, I really don't want to be sales side of things. Switching up is just staying in the same hole. :/

Jordon Nadeen

Student

3 months ago

I get it. Here's my two cents.. find a few target companies and start reaching out to people in their marketing teams for guidance. Cozy up to them and make genuine connections. Give this a few months, and then go in for the kill. Ask for a referral, have a project ready (ideas, competitor campaign breakdowns etc.) Alternatively, move to a seed / series A with a strong marketing leader who you can work under. It's easier to break in via startups than bigger companies. Fyi, HPE has far from the best sales team culture. If you want to give software sales a few more years to make money, look for an international majority company with limited employees in India. They have the best culture.

Jordon Lee

Persistent Systems

3 months ago

Try to switch into pre-sales and account management

Jordon Vernon

Hewlett Packard

3 months ago

If there are openings, I would. How would that be in line with marketing? I really really don't want to be in sales. :/

Isaiah Carmden

Persistent Systems

3 months ago

Leave marketing as of now. Bcz currently less opportunities in marketing. only experience people are getting job in marketing. Or go for digital marketing.