CosmicDonut
CosmicDonut

Offer from grab Singapore as head of analytics

I work in a small green tech startup company based out of Norway with full remote from bangalore they make ev battery . I am working as chief data officer , but the company has less data but good wlb and very good environment . Nobody is stoping me to do anything . I got an offer from grab Singapore in Singapore with salary 30000 sgd per month and stocks extra . Should I leave India for Singapore . I have 20 years experience and growing child middle school and current ctc 1.25 inr with bonus . Should I go or not

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DizzyTaco
DizzyTaco
Oracle10mo

Singapore is a very good country. It's an emerging hub for finance and technology in Asia and at par with Dubai.

You've got a very nice salary which is equivalent to any C-suite level role since you're going in for a chief position at Grab. I think you should go for this role and spend few years of your career outside India if you haven't in your previous 20 yoe.

You'll have a great career growth and also your kids will have a top quality education in Singapore. Also Singaporeans universities ranking better than IITs, so rest assured your kid will definitely have good education if they're pursuing STEM degree. Singapore has a high human development index in the world. Singaporeans are very knowledgeable and highly intellectual people I've known.

Unlike US and Europe, Singapore is hardly 5 hours by flight from any major Indian city so you can come to India anytime you wish over a long weekend. Infact you can afford to come every weekend (if you're not taking your family along to Singapore).

I've tried finding a job in Singapore in Oracle domain several times but I'm not getting anywhere more than SG$ 12k for my experience level. I'd recommend you should look forward to take this role and go with your family for long term.

Here's a short documentary about Singapore. https://youtu.be/xi6r3hZe5Tg

GoofyWalrus
GoofyWalrus

What does SGD 30k translate to INR? How good is it? Not OP, just asking

DizzyTaco
DizzyTaco
Oracle10mo

~ INR 18.5 lacs per month, but he'd be liable for 18% taxation in Singapore for that salary so his inhand pay would be approximately SG$ 24k ~ INR 15 lacs per month i.e. INR 1.8 cr annual net earnings. I think with family expenses he should be able to save 1 cr annually.

WigglyBanana
WigglyBanana

Umm, this is a no brainer Better company, better living conditions, much better pay

CosmicDonut
CosmicDonut

But I don’t want to go leaving a remote job

DizzyTaco
DizzyTaco
Oracle10mo

Come out of your comfort zone. Remote job was only a trend which got popularized during Covid lockdown. Don't expect to grow professionally if you aren't ready to come out of your comfort zone. Tell me how many high valued professional connects did you make simply doing remote job. The amount of time you spend outside your home is the directly proportional to your professional growth and success in life.

Think of it like an opportunity to explore your life and career in a new way.

ZestySushi
ZestySushi
EY10mo

I am also in process of leaving my remote job. I legit felt quite stupid (i am in mid 20s), but my personal exposure and career growth is limited due to wfh so better for me to go into a hybrid ord

DizzyLlama
DizzyLlama

Bhai mujhe bhi Norway wali company me lagwado. Kaise search ki remote opportunity?

CosmicDonut
CosmicDonut

But should I go

DizzyLlama
DizzyLlama

Bhai grab ka ofcourse naam bada hai, agar aapko family means apne maa baap ya bhai behen ko chodh ke rehna hai Singapore me ya kuch time ke liye explore karna hai tjh ja sakte ho. But agar aapko salary already more than sufficient hai aur job safe hai bina tension ke zyada life chal rahi hai toh mat jao.

Mujhe ye nahi pata ki abhi kaunsi company me ho aap but Grab aapko Kai aur badi opportunities dilwa sakti hai future me

BouncyLlama
BouncyLlama

After having 20 years of experience. I would suggest having a peaceful life. If you are super fit in terms of physical and mental health then it's ok to pursue.

Else here are my thoughts

I am pretty sure there would be having responsibilities interms of family/older parents. Kids.

Since you are earning great while in india. I would suggest to discuss this with your family.

Upto 300k SGD per year is pretty much middle class or a little higher in Singapore.

Owning a car is damn expensive. A hondacity costs you more than 1cr.

Singapore work culture is more demanding and people work for longer hours. Expectations are more. Europe is more chill I would say.

I am pretty sure. You could fund your kid's batchelors or masters anywhere in the world.

CosmicDonut
CosmicDonut

I agree with you

ZestySushi
ZestySushi
EY9mo

Would you recommend the same for early career professionals (5-10 yoe)? Or is it worthwhile to take a risk at such an age?

CosmicDonut
CosmicDonut

May be I am doing career suicide

DizzyTaco
DizzyTaco
Oracle10mo

Absolutely not. You've worked in India for 20 years. It's time to explore another country much much better than India along with your family (if you decide to take them along).

If you don't like it or if your family finds it difficult to adjust you can always come back or send them back to India. That's what my father did with us. We got a job in Dubai after 16 yoe in India and we all relocated to Dubai but my dad is an IITian and he wanted me and my brother to also prepare for IIT and he realized schools in Dubai can't prepare for this kind of competition so he sent me and my brother back to India after 5 years of studying in Dubai. He continued working in Dubai and later started his company too in Dubai.

So it's not career suicide. It's a new way to look at yourself and get a new direction for your career. Who know you may meet some really good people with whom you can start a business in Singapore. There are endless possibilities...

CosmicSushi
CosmicSushi

How did the IIT thing work out for you p

JumpyPretzel
JumpyPretzel

Quick note about Singapore that nobody has mentioned yet- The work culture there in general, is very bad. Entire country’s corporate work culture is bad, and toxic. They overwork and under huge pressure. I have worked with a Singapore based company in past and have been to the Country as well for a quick office trip. While the Country is really great from lifestyle and technology advancement perspective, the work culture is just too bad. In fact, one of the colleague from my previous company had reached out to me asking if I want to try a Job opening in his team and I had refused. So before making any decision, think over this aspect, talk to 2-3 people who have worked both in India as well as Singapore, and ask them about work culture.

DizzyTaco
DizzyTaco
Oracle10mo

That's the reason Singapore is so developed in human capital, technology and finance. Any city or country which has a culmination of these three aspects is a really good place to progress your career.

JumpyPretzel
JumpyPretzel

Not really. Not all good places have toxic work culture. There are several other countries which have equally good technology and finance, and they have far better work culture- US and Canada are two examples. I haven’t been to there, but some friends there and they don’t complain about work culture.

DancingUnicorn
DancingUnicorn
Swiggy10mo

1.2 cr + in India with remote and good work life balance. What else do you want/aspire man? I mean what motivated you to apply and give interviews for other companies....outside india as well?
Would you pls help with your thought process before when you applied?

CosmicDonut
CosmicDonut

But you are in Swiggy , razor pay , good brand new age work lots of options at scale. but my use cases are limited I am getting panicked attack

CosmicDonut
CosmicDonut

Grab is Better brand name but this startup I do anything

DerpyBoba
DerpyBoba
Student10mo

1.2 cr ka ctc way too good to leave for Singapore when the current company has great culture and remote work

WigglyCupcake
WigglyCupcake

Current Job:

Pros:

  1. Good work-life balance and positive environment.
  2. Remote work flexibility.
  3. Opportunity to contribute to green tech startup.
  4. Familiarity with company culture and colleagues.
  5. Stability and comfort of the current situation.

Cons:

  1. Limited career growth.
  2. Slower salary growth.
  3. Limited international networking opportunities.
  4. Limited financial incentives.

Job Offer at Grab in Singapore:

Pros:

  1. Higher salary and potential for financial rewards.
  2. Career advancement opportunities.
  3. Access to developed city like Singapore.
  4. Exposure to their tech industry.
  5. Potential for professional growth and networking.

Cons:

  1. Disruption to family and child's education.

  2. Higher cost of living (could be mitigated by your salary)

  3. Potential for longer work hours and stress.

  4. Uncertainty about company culture and work-life balance.

Get a litmus test by going through Glassdoor, reaching out to current Grab employees via LinkedIn to get some idea, and you can be upfront about this question to the recruiters as well for Cons 3 and 4.

Consider these points along with your and your family's priorities and circumstances to make an informed decision. All the best

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