I find Software Engineering nothing but a game of Hide and Seek now. I have a task I know what to code but don't know where to code. 9095% time goes to find exactly where we had to code to. ☕️  Tod...

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I find Software Engineering nothing but a game of Hide and Seek now. I have a task I know what to code but don't know where to code. 90-95% time goes to find exactly where we had to code to. ☕️

Today it took me one whole day to debug just to find out someone put a boolean variable hardcoded to true. 🙂

SWE or Hide and seek.

Software Developer

SWE or Hide and seek.- Grapevine

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Hey Grapeviners, 

I need some serious help. 

Bit about myself - just graduated this month and working as an APM at a seed stage startup. I have 1.5 years of product experience and 3 years of overall experience as an intern. 

Lately, not sure why but I am loving what engineers do. Closely working with them, and I guess it's nostalgic for myself. Because I did coding for 6 months and moved on for some reason. So, I understand how tech actually works. Have got good feedback regarding this. 

At the same time, I am not really finding the true value of what I am doing everyday. Feels a void inside. 

Also, I am not able to discuss all these things in person with someone, because I fear that they will judge me after doing internships for 3 years, I still haven't figured out my career. Such a loser I am. 

I have been thinking about starting coding again and maybe switching to a coding job in the next 6 months maybe. But again it would be tough for me as I only got weekends for me to learn all this stuff. 

What do you all experienced folks suggest? What should I do? 

Please comment if you can help 🙏

Switching from PM to Engineer

Product Manager

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Hey Grapeviners, 

I need some serious help. 

Bit about myself - just graduated this month and working as an APM at a seed stage startup. I have 1.5 years of product experience and 3 years of overall experience. 

Lately, not sure why but I am loving what engineers do. Closely working with them, and I guess it's nostalgic for myself. Because I did coding for 6 months and moved on for some reason. So, I understand how tech actually works. Have got good feedback regarding this. 

At the same time, I am not really finding the true value of what I am doing everyday. Feels a void inside. 

Also, I am not able to discuss all these things in person with someone, because I fear that they will judge me after doing internships for 3 years, I still haven't figured out my career. Such a loser I am. 

I have been thinking about starting coding again and maybe switching to a coding job in the next 6 months maybe. But again it would be tough for me as I only got weekends for me to learn all this stuff. 

What do you all experienced folks suggest? What should I do? 

Please comment if you can help🙏

Switch from PM to Engineer

Hi all, 
I am a software engineer in a * company. But here the point is about myself, i don't like to code at all, infect i hate it now, but still i am doing it , because i have no choice, i can't leave it nor my family will be  supportive about it. I know its the best work in today's time but not for me. I also got promoted and been on a good pay (acc to exp). But i just don't want to do this job at all. My brain is affecting to a large extent , i have been hiding it from my family. I have a lot of headaches and tension of work like how am i going to do this. Because of having no interest in this, i am not improving my knowledge in this field, which have created fear about switching jobs. I forgets concepts , but i am able to work , don't know how, but i am afraid how long will i survive. My life is ahead me, many responsibilities lying ahead, but also i dont want to do this. What should i do ? Please help me , i can see only one option and that the very last option.

Coding...

When I was a kid I dreamt of becoming a software engineer, because I was told software engineers are always in front of their computers. Little me thought that I could play Pinball all the time.

But after I became an engineer a couple of years ago, I found myself not even getting enough time to play. Sad life...

Recently I realised, I've been playing Pinball all the time. The launcher which kicks you in the butt is known as the HR.

The two flippers in the bottom which keep on kicking you are manager and team lead. The side drums which gives shocks to you, are senior developers.

The switches that you toggle in the top, are the interns. And the worm hole which you enter, stay for a while and come back with more speed? That's called a long weekend. That is rare.

Enjoy the corporate game of Pinball my friends!

Software Engineering is a game of Pinball

Y'all dream't of being software engineers? 
  
 When I was like 10-12, I just dreamt of just laying on a private yacht on a private island with ice cream, a gaming arcade and hot girls 
  
 Now I am an adult and I still dream the same but add some alcohol in there

Founder

I could solve general problems from arrays, trees, sorting and all. I would fail miserably when the interview goes in the direction of DP problems. After a point I realised it actually doesn’t matter, you will find enough places where you are valued for your skills. 

Been a person who was on the both sides of the table, more on the side taking interviews. I realised one thing how many of us end up writing those fancy TSP code or backtracking etc day in day out. Almost most of the code we write is in some form a version of CRUD and its a reality.
Someone getting hired in google is not going to be assigned to improve their search algorithm. I know a lot of ppl who joined and left google because they were not getting to work on meaningful stuff. 

I ask real life programming stuff and I try to judge based on that, I want to see given a real scenario how the candidate thinks rather then knowing how good the person is in solving some DP problem.

Some ppl can write real good code without realising that they are actually using the best practices and design patterns and not remembering the patterns name, it sometimes just comes naturally

I suck at DSA, realized its okay.

Software Engineer

1. You are building a software that otherwise could be built by a 12 year old kid, if given proper training.
2. You cannot code if I cut off google, stackoverflow & related websites.
3. You are just concerned about producing the output quickly because a. your work is time bound, b. you want to stand out from others.
4. You attend countless meetings that carry no value, thanks to Agile.
5. 10 people write code for the same software which otherwise could have been written by 1 person.
6. You write pages of documents just because you are expected to write for the team, compliance & stuff.
7. You don’t care about non-functional requirements as nobody asked for it.
8. You are spending hours together in coding a simple thing & you are branded a hard-worker.
9. Or you don’t spend much time in coding because you impress people with tech jargons that you learnt recently. You are branded a smart-worker.
10. The code you write will be completely rewritten in next 3-4 years just to catch up with the industry trends.
11. Your only goal is to earn loads of money which otherwise could not be earned in other engineering fields. That’s one of the reasons why you are on grapevine.

Prove me wrong if you can, by commenting your opinion.

Software engineering job is highly overrated. Prove me wrong if you can.

Tell me you are a mediocre programmer/ work with mediocre programmers /an idiot without telling me you are.

Software Architect

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My current job is consuming me completely. I don't get to upskill myself. Therefore, I am stuck in this vicious cycle where I want to leave my organization to work in a better environment along with skilled colleagues. However, to do this, I will have to upskill myself.

Would love to hear your experience if you have been in a similar situation. How did things turn out for you eventually?

People who have left a job without another lined up, how have things worked out for you?

Do you like to code? Do you like upscaling every year? How did you start liking it? If you don’t, how do you plan on staying in the industry?

Serious answers only

Do you like being a SWE?

Ask me anything except my company name, or things that can reveal my identity. I may respectfully choose not to respond to your question based on my own judgement.

Here’s a brief intro about me: I’ve worked as both software engineering manager & software technical architect over the last 18+ years on various tech stacks managing backend, frontend and a little bit of cloud. I have seen ups and downs in the software industry. Currently I’m working as a senior architect in one of the product based companies in India.

I’ve been an Engineering Manager before. Ask me anything.

Hello all,
I'm a software engineer at one of the service based companies and I graduated last yr.

 Though I always knew software engineering isn't for me, I still gave it a try hoping my perspective would change when I enter the industry. Bummer! I hate it even more

What I have realised is I don't like to code or spend all day finding a solution to an error. Not to say I don't like problem solving but I simply don't like the problem solving that is required for a great software engineer.

I have been a content writer in the past and enjoyed it. I also helped a small digital marketing agency launch a campaign for a product. I thoroughly enjoyed the process of coming up with ideas that suit the tone of the brand, writing copies and much more.

I'm thinking of switching to a marketing role or anything that aligns with what I have mentioned above.  

My question to you are:

1) Is it even possible to switch without an MBA?
2) If so, What should be my approach to applying to jobs? (Kindly tell me the specific and not just -' Make a stellar resume and apply ' kind of a vague answer)
3) What other roles can I look into?

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