DerpyPickle
DerpyPickle

Should I rage quit?

I’ve been insufferable at work since 2-3 months now. Total time at my company- 6mo 21 days. Profile - Product Management My engineering team seems to be taking no ownership and always have their brahmastra ready that it didn’t come from product’s side. QA again is so great that I have to sit and thoroughly test each release end to end. My manager- he’s quite interested in taking my career fwd as a project manager. (I am not) He’s a total asshole and is quite concerned with start dates and end dates of tasks ( mind you, I am not the one actually writing the code but somehow the dates are my responsibility). He totally micromanages and somehow keeps blaming me for each small thing. Examples:

  • My engg team isn’t taking ownership: “you aren’t keeping them motivated enough”
  • This isn’t a last minute change : “Do you attend standups? You aren’t communicating well”
  • The QA tested and approved it, hence we released it. : “But did you test it? “
  • Here are the release notes. : “This looks too jazzy, did you copy from GPT”
  • Here are the release notes. : “This looks too basic, did you not copy from GPT”

I could go on forever.

Gust: I am quite unhappy and is causing me unnecessary stress everyday. Also I don’t feel there’s a solution possible

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SleepyNarwhal
SleepyNarwhal

I think you should quit unless you have a lot of financial commitments. Its great if you have a good runway for 3-6 months, if you dont it’s completely okay live on credit card debt rather than suffering at the wrong place. Do not worry about the 6m tenure, its totally fine leave if you dont like it.
Product Management itself is always kind of stressful by the nature of work itself, and you dont really want additional stress caused by these engineers and managers.

Market is healing slowly and it shouldn’t be a problem finding a new role with 2 months. Go for it, mental peace over anything

ZoomyMuffin
ZoomyMuffin

Market is healing slowly is so good to hear after a long winter.

DerpyPickle
DerpyPickle

Thanks for the wonderful words. Gives me hope. And I agree, it’s better to believe in myself instead of being insufferable

TwirlyMuffin
TwirlyMuffin

Did not read your post at all. Never rage quit. Endure - sharpen your blade and cut once and decisively when the time comes.

DerpyPickle
DerpyPickle

Haha yes, that’d be the most satisfying response but I’m an impulsive and emotional person. Still trying to figure out the best way to give it back to them. Suggestions?

TwirlyMuffin
TwirlyMuffin

Hurt them outside professional sphere.

DancingMuffin
DancingMuffin

Quit if you have the savings. Start a new.

if you do not have savings:

  1. Establish some boundaries with your manager.

  2. Try to get things on paper/email with engineering so that you can tell them when things were communicated. Make standup minutes if you have to.

  3. Checkin with Engineering lead from time to time to see if things are on track.

  4. Hold QA accountable for quality. Come up with metrics to judge QA's performance. If the graph goes downwards, ask for a better QA from management.

  5. If they're able to absorb so many tardy people, they won't mind a tardy PM. Become one, for sometime, till you have enough savings to quit.

Everything above is easier said than done. It's okay to fail.

JumpyBiscuit
JumpyBiscuit

This is exactly my story. The fucking engineering background founders don't understand jackshit about the PM role and keep telling them what to do.

Fucking disgusting

DerpyPickle
DerpyPickle

Totally resonate. My founders are also engineering based and have given the engineers a free pass to take any decision they want.

JumpyBiscuit
JumpyBiscuit

Totally and everything wrong is with the PM lol

GroovyMochi
GroovyMochi

Bro I am PM myself but believe me there are 1% companies who do actual product management otherwise everywhere it is project management. Product management is stressful because of this situation.

  1. Start using JIRA actively it will kind of expose your engineering and QA team
  2. Never ever blame anyone just expose them to everyone and they will be blamed by default
  3. Start conducting 1:1 with your manager where mention him the process you follow and ask for feedback. He/she will become much more toned down as he/she will know that you will ask for feedback
DerpyPickle
DerpyPickle

Will try all these in my next company. Also please name those <1% companies. If I’m aiming, might as well aim for the moon!

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