Why are 2-3 YOE people calling themselves leader(product leader , engineering leader)?
It takes time to understand and master any domain. You have to do something substantial. Where has the humility gone? Does calling yourself Leader increases chances of getting jobs? It’s mind boggling And shallow.
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Just curious what's substantial in your opinion say for a product person?
Though not strict but somewhere close to a decade ..
Yep at least a decade. I’ve done 8 years in PM and find it incredibly funny when folks with half the experience (time, scope, scale) provide gyaan and talks and have the product leader tag.
2-3 years? Product Management interns write “Building {company_name}” these days. These kids probably don’t know to write a print statement in python and think that they’re building a company. I have a lot of respect and admiration for the PM function, however, a lot of GenZ kinda PMs just keep bullshitting these days.
Hey, what's bad about writing "building"? Technically they are building something at work right? Just curious.
Yea but it is about the message they are trying to convey. Would you call changing font size of in-app notification "building" the company?? Mostly no. It takes collective effort of entire team and departments to build and deliver meaningful impact. So, no one person alone is responsible for it unlike what 2 year experience kids portray on LinkedIn
100’s of Vice President in banking orgs..
It's more than 10k... Like more than 55% are VPs or above in Morgan
They cant even lead their lives forget leading at workplace. 😂 Tags have become gimmick.
Genuine question: If my company has given me an unjustifiable title, should I not use it?
How do I convey to HR/others that my actual knowledge level is below what my designation name indicates?
Noo you don't, you actually stay and learn something that justifies your title and not just get the title and skip for calmer seas. While you're there why not just do it‽
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Designations are a fad now with no meaning to the names
Yeah it's like as a founder you sometimes get this person that's okay with taking a pay cut just for a better title. And I'm like yeah why not doesn't really hurt me. I think that's just grown everywhere
startups designations ka koi deen dharam nahi hota.sab man marzi ke mutabik kuch bhi dedete hai
Vice President of Engineering, and he has experience of around 4-5 years. 12 LPA. Bangalore. Ab batao bhai. Uske saath bhi na insaafi ho rahi hai waise.
Agree, gone are the days when leaders in company were usually personified by deep knowledge, years of experience (atleast 10-15 years) and seen by white hair which counted proudly as a sign of experience. Nowadays these slim fit guys/girls with not much experience are becoming leaders so called is really weird.
To be fair, it’s perfectly fine to be a 10-15 yrs leader AND be fit😅🤔 aspirational even
Yeah I agree regarding fitness. The point I am trying to make is more of a wise experienced image being revered for generations in any field and that personifies with the older men and women.
How salty brother?
Not much Mr. Product leader
yeah too many made up titles- founders office, strategy's ops. director or lead, etc. right out of college and within 2 to 3 years of experience Note 1-3 yrs of work experience as an Analyst or Associate at top-tier VC funds, or consulting firms (MBB), or at fast growing consumer tech startups (esp RMG/Commerce)
- Undergrad from top colleges including IIT/BITS/NSIT/DTU/SRCC/St Stephen's LSR/Ashoka They automatically become leads and get jobs at top start ups based on their school, brand name)
this is pretty common these in the VC world, start up world - #shallow