The core team feels like a gang that everyone else can never infiltrate
Been in this company for about 8 months. Company is great but there’s just this team that works on all the important things that’s absolutely hard to keep up with. They don’t share anything with us till the last minute. I was asked to share some copy for something and when I asked was more information, I was told that it’s “confidential”. I just pointed out that I can’t do anything about it if I’m not given more info. I’ve been begging for more responsibilities the past couple of months. I’m okay with mediocrity and just warming the bench for a few weeks. But can’t let my career take a fall with that. I’ve jumped between jobs too many times, I last a year at best everywhere and I want to stay here for a while and build up. But the more I watch them, making plans with the founders, doing their thing and hiring new people, all the while I’m here asking to be seen, it feels like this is just how it’s going to be. I get paid well, I spend only about 2 to 3 hours working everyday. Might sound like the ideal job for some but I definitely feel like if a layoff comes, I’ll bite the dust because I was not given the opportunity to be part of this group and did nothing important.
I'd suggest the following -
1. If you have reporting manager and have 1:1 with the person, do let them know that you are available. That they are not utilizing your fullest potential and that you can do lot more. I am sure If you are hired, they would wanna squeeze every ounce of work from you especially if it's a startup. If they arent doing it, they must not be realising it.
2. Find out how the core team hangs out outside of work. Say a Sutta break or a after work drinks assemble etc. Even if you don't do any of those, try to find a way to be part of conversations outside of work, try to make them your friends.
3. Whatever work is being given, be damn communicative across everyone. If a work is shipped out, they should know it comes from you.
With this, with some time you should get into the core team.
You can also just ask them what's it gonna take to get better work? Maybe since you are new it's a trust issue at their end on whether you can deliver more complex work. Easiest way for them to change this view is by you showing how amazing you do work even in simplest of things given to you!
BlickCait
Stealth
5 months ago
The last couple of weeks, I finished my work for the week in a day and sent it across. I didn’t just do it but I’ve done extremely well in the past two quarters. Met my targets well into mid-quarter I’ve spoken to my manager a lot of times about this. He just keeps asking me to give it some time. Also, I was referred by one of these core team people. The whole team is in Dubai. So they just ask me to go there on my expense. I’m not going to do that.
I am in Dubai now and this separation just seems so obvious seeing it up close.
Try talking to the head of this group without seeming as someone complaining why others are part of this, but rather what it would take to be part of this core thing while appealing to them that they can better utilize an asset like you.
If nothing works maybe it's time to switch
Core teams can be of different types.
The early employees (the founding team basically) are usually very closely knit and they wouldn't want to talk things out but rather want to own it up by themselves and drive things forward. Sometimes if you joined a bit late, even a junior employee by grade but a founding team member can still choose not to open up to you or have you feel included because of the exclusivity they get to enjoy as a founding team.
The next type is if your core team is full of IIT/IIM folks who studied together or have worked together in the past and have a very strong bonding/networking benefit, it would be very difficult for you to crack through and have a seat at the table in this scenario too.
What I would suggest is your work being finished on time and exceeding targets is fine, but look at avenues where you can own up new tasks or bring initiatives across the growth funnel which was not even supposed to be yours in the first place. It can be belonging to a different team too but they may have completely skipped even looking into it. There will be resistance but that's the only way you garner visibility across the organisation and grow. I'm assuming it's a startup so you can always find a way to penetrate through things and fix them and it should be welcomed, assuming the culture is good.
BlickCait
Stealth
5 months ago
For context: this is a small team with only 50 people. Found that the founder is talking to someone who I’ve known and I don’t consider is very talented. But is being brought on for things I wanted to pick up. This was the nail on the coffin.
Donno what kind of culture corporates are building these days and where we are heading.
Any reason you have jumped between jobs too many times? It's not possible that all those orgs were bad?
BlickCait
Stealth
5 months ago
First ever company shut down, stayed in my second one for a year and a half (got paid 3 LPA), moved to a tech startup as my third company, got acquired into the fourth company where I spent 14 hours a day on meetings/work and I quit.
The core team should be a gang. Try to slowly become a part of it. Trust is earned not given randomly to everyone
Core Team : It’s defined as a group of people knee deep in groupthink and circle-jerking. That’s it
Also see - Cults, dysfunctional corporate management , lack of accountability.
In this scenarios, you need to quit asap. Things don't change or progress well overtime. In fact, you will see things getting worse. Because there is someone or something in that core group who is wanting to not share profits power or God knows what else.
Your eagerness and pursuit for more responsibilities will only be matched with an equal amount of secretiveness.
This is also setting the precedent for your exit from this company. Sympathise and understand how it feels to not fit in and stay 1year or less in places. I have given up on this idea that it might not be actually be me but rather a lot of us are able to see the mediocrity of such places.
Sabre
Student
5 months ago
Your are in marketing sort of role or ceo's office growth types? Also ctc and yoe?
BlickCait
Stealth
5 months ago
Product marketing, 6yoe and 47 LPA
Sabre
Student
5 months ago
Wow that's great for 6yoe, how did you have that journey? Mba t1?
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Product_moose
Stealth
5 months ago
Been there done it- laid off 😂 the good pay, 2-3hours not getting responsibilities and asking everyone to give more work when you rnt in the core team is a precursor to being laid off !! They can do without you, 2-3hours work can be substituted by anyone from core team! Good luck buddy
Megamind007
Stealth
5 months ago
It is a global payment startup, ****** founder of pathoo. ???? Is this one?
BlickCait
Stealth
5 months ago
No lol. Only one Indian founder
BitterPill
Stealth
5 months ago
They say culture eats strategy for breakfast. Unfortunately the chances of things changing over here are low. Even if you somehow manage to join the gang, you'll be subjecting someone else to the same ordeal that you are experiencing. I think it's important to evaluate the company well before you join a startup. I am not sure about you, but I have often noticed that candidates don't evaluate the organization much at the time of interviews. Remember 9 out of 10 startups fail, so you must evaluate the organization on possible parameters before you join. If you are good at your work some other organizations will be happy to hire you. I don't think short stints matter as much these days. There is severe lack of good talent in the market. Although, I would suggest you still should have a candid conversation with your manager and also with the core team member who referred you. Many problems can be solved with communication. It is possible that they are doing this without realizing and you feedback will help change the situation
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