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Frontend SDE vs MBA

I have overall 4 YOE in software engineering space now and have been considering long term view of my career and what my future would look like. Is MBA a better choice for long term growth and trajectory, I have been working primary in frontend software engineering space and still find it exciting and challenging due to new changes and updates coming everyday. But is product management better for the long term, what is the career graph for frontend engineers after maybe 10-12 YOE ? Also how does AI impact both roles in the long term ? Any past software engineers turned PMs what are your thoughts?

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by salt

Gojek

Why you shouldn’t do PM internships?

Saw some misguided student post about PM internships. This is for anyone considering a PM internship. DONT. A fresher should not be going into Product Management. Focus on building hard skills first. You need an edge/alpha in your career strategy while reducing risk. Atleast work for 1 year in the industry in a hard skill role. Then, think about transitioning. This does two things. 1. You have a core differentiator compared to other candidates: Engg/ Design/ Sales/ Data Science/ Analytics. Having a PM internship is not a good enough differentiator. No company would hire a Product Management intern over someone with hard skills in another domain. Product is different. In SDE, it makes sense to have multiple internships as it gives confidence to the recruiter that you’ll be able to do your job. In PM, no recruiter worth their salt will consider a PM internship contributing to you being a successful PM. Your internship doesn’t contribute anything meaningful to its ability to communicate your skill. 2. You realise if you’re getting into a field because it’s a fad or you’re genuinely interested in it. I’ve seen many such freshers switch into product and get into suboptimal orgs. Don’t. Do your career a favour and work on your hard skills. That alone will contribute a lot more to your Product Skills than some poor internship. As a GPM at Gojek, I will never hire anyone who has done a PM internship unless they have a solid track record in a hard skill based role. You can only be a good “enabler“ if you can empathise with a “builder”. Can you be a PM out of college, YES? Should you? NO. You’ll realise this later in your career. First gain experiences building/enabling real products, you’ll thank yourself for that when it helps you build better Products. Also, stop listening to these charlatans who masquerade as Product Gurus. They are out to make a quick buck. Don’t do these Product Courses. It’s all a farce. First, get some experience and then you’ll know

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by Z3r0

Swiggy

Longevity of a product career

Sharing some reflections on this: 1. Product is not a function with a large hierarchy / multiple levels in the ladder. Managerial responsibility comes in very late in the product career and the spans are typically small (relative to other functions like engineering, sales, operations). This also means a steeper funnel to the top and only a handful VP Product roles in the industry. 2. Product is centered around technology and digital consumer trends, both of which are fast changing. This requires constant unlearning and relearning. But more critically, this also means that previous knowledge/experience hits a plateau on marginal value beyond a basic threshold (where you have developed some essential product semse and skills). 3. Product managers are also much higher-paid vs other functional peers, at comparable years of experience. This means that a PM gets to a very high salary (say, 1+ crore) by the age of 40 (15-20y into their career). Tech functions in non-tech companies (like FMCG, banking) cannot offer that kind of pay, meaning salary growth beyond a point is limited to tech-first companies / limiting addressable market for lateral moves. All of these considererd, how should PMs think about the longevity of their careers? Unlike traditional roles, this does not seem like a "retire at 60" job. What would be the realistic age one should plan for, at which career growth and salary growth will stagnate? What are ways in which a 80%ile PM can extend their career (eg: also taking up engineering management or P&L responsibility or growth function etc., to increase scope)? PS: this post is not for the top 5-10% PMs. They will always find roles at VP level etc, this is for the 50-90%ile bucket of PM talent.