Kamlesh
Kamlesh

Disingenuous behaviour in startup ecosystem

Something I've found very frustrating while pitching to investors, platforms and funds is that so many of them actually just bait and switch.

They pose like gyani people earnestly looking for investments or helping entrepreneurs, but when you speak to them they start selling you their services.

Fundraise is apparently just a step away, need to signup here first, or create xyz report first, or do outreach to xyz number of people, or do market research and fresh pitch deck creation, or hire xyz consultant/agency to get to the "next level" - basically a bunch of barriers you need to pay to clear despite having a profitable business with paying customers.

Fact of the matter is there are plenty of people raising money based off of pitch decks with no MVP , or even just the right conversations with the right people. But they are rare and hard to find organically. Requires lots of networking and connecting dots over months and years.

The point is, this selling in the guise of securing investment is tiresome and a waste of time for most entrepreneurs. They probably do get a few suckers occasionally which helps them stay afloat I guess.

Some of them might even take your ideas and start building something of their own or back someone to build it under them. Once you start pitching, the deck starts floating around in VC groups and networks mostly beyond the reach of the average entrepreneur.

Considering all this, just keeping one's head down and bootstrapping forever in peace seems like a better approach.

10mo ago
AGentleGiant
AGentleGiant

Couldn’t agree more with the last line. Taking investor money is considered a success factor these days - I just don’t understand why. It comes on the liability side of the balance sheet, so it’s actually bad for a founder, not good. Making a profitable model from the first instance is the way to go to build a sustainable startup - nothing else can be called a success factor.

On the malpractices, I guess networking and knowing the right people might help you avoid it. I haven’t faced it in my investment banking days, so I guess if you really reach out to the right decision makers at the right fund, I don’t think they will indulge in such practises. Hire an advisor and pay him in equity rather than cash if it helps.

All the best!

Kamlesh
Kamlesh

Tbh investment=success is ingrained in me too despite having experienced all the bs that comes with pitching. As a bootstrapper you're almost always hungry for revenue and you don't get enough time to think and strategise long term plays. I'm trying to delink the two in my mind and getting used to bootstrapping only.

Reaching out to major/popular funds is mostly ineffective because there's lots of competition there and they mostly reject unless going through warm intro. Which is why people like me try to explore other avenues.

Advisors never take equity from what I've seen, everyone wants cash upfront. But a success fee of 2-3% is still fine as long as they can get good investors. We haven't had any luck though, one or two advisors were trying it out but stopped eventually.

Qwerty2398
Qwerty2398

Taking investor money will seem like a great idea when you feel scaling up will help in reaching profitability and lessen risk. In most cases it does. The problem lies with whom you raise from.

AllMonkey5Saviour
AllMonkey5Saviour

Startup Mentors Scam

Kamlesh
Kamlesh

Yeah, that too

DarlesChickens
DarlesChickens

Best way to get through Is incubators like YC, Antler and Seed funds VCs . You can reach out to founders like Kunal Shah, Harshil Mathur, Kunal Bahl etc who'd be kind enough to intro you to a few.

Kamlesh
Kamlesh

Such funds and people usually look for unicorn potential from the beginning. Mostly not into niche based startups (no matter how big the niche is).

I've applied to most popular funds and got rejected already.

DarlesChickens
DarlesChickens

How about trying american VC Funds / American Midsized VC Firms ? Did you try A16Z bro ? Marc andressen.

micheal_scott
micheal_scott

Hi @Rorschach - I am just starting up. Would love to connect and learn from your experience 🙌🏻

Kamlesh
Kamlesh

Sure, DM

micheal_scott
micheal_scott

Can't DM here. Add me to discord? https://discord.com/invite/2GuGAsEe

GoldenHandcuff
GoldenHandcuff
Amazon10mo

Absolutely feel the frustration. The investment game often feels like a maze of empty promises. Bootstrapping might be slower, but at least it's genuine progress. Dodging the bait-and-switch dance.

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