TwirlyPotato
TwirlyPotato

I'm laying myself off. Indian start-ups have killed my sense of purpose

Why: I know that with all the job layoffs happening, it's kinda stupid to quit but I just can't. After almost a decade in the startup scene I'm taking a break, probably for good.

From AI to B2C to ed-tech and more I have worked with startups at every stage of growth and across sectors. Almost in every one of these w/o exception, I have experienced burnout, mindless pressure, and being underpaid because I'm not from an IIT or IIM.

Context: I love technology, I have been a sci-fi nerd since school and I threw myself into the stories of startups changing the world. But because of family finances and the overall culture of startups I haven't taken a break in about 10 years and it's starting to show.

I don't have savings to last me more than 3-4 months but at this rate I'll end up checking out of society.

Unsolicited advice:

  1. Most startups and the VCs that back them know they're going to fail but don't internalise their failure as yours.
  2. Always, always take care of your mental + physical health. Doesn't matter if you're intern and you're expected to slog 12-15 hours in the name of learning.
  3. I missed moments with my ageing mom and dad, school friends and just time to read and relax because I was afraid of missing out on "networking" and "office night outs". Fuck all that, it is and it will always be family and frit first.

Finally, Fuck all you hustle bro CEOs, they have done more to damage the mentor health of a generation more than any politician. I feel stupid and useless because you can't help posturing and creating panic in the name of disruption. Hope AI takes your jobs too.

PS: See you on the other side.

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JazzyPretzel
JazzyPretzel

Sorry to hear about your experience. Specially the underpaid part sucks being from non target IIT IIM. Trust me the bias exists in Big tech companies too. I’m surprised that startups still carry this bias.

All the best to you and have fun with the break

GroovyBoba
GroovyBoba

They all do

TwirlyPotato
TwirlyPotato

Thank you so much man! And yes, reading the replies gives me more hope.

JumpyPretzel
JumpyPretzel

Interesting and enlightening post. Thanks for putting your heart out for everyone to see.
I am a bit surprised though about the underpaid part, and for savings of just 4-5 months. I had heard about Tier3 College guys in Bangalore earning 65+ lpa at just 6-7 yrs experience. Was all that a rumour? Because that package at that experience, for a Tier 3 guys, looks fabulous to me. Is it not so for others?

SillyDonut
SillyDonut
TCS26mo

65+ lpa is not the package of 1 lac people out of say 40L techies in Bengaluru

They are handful, may be few 100 and into niche tech where demand supply mismatch is huge...once economics get balanced...the salary correction will come in place just like php, java, html etc.

JumpyPretzel
JumpyPretzel

@Sherlock007 I know I know, but that was not the point. This person worked with startups (supposed to be paying more, specially in Bangalore), and worked for 10 yrs with full zeal and interest, and still feels underpaid. And then there are some others being paid humongous money, that’s why I wondered.

SillyDonut
SillyDonut
TCS26mo

After 10y of workex...only 3 month runaway...

Bro/Sis, you screwed up your financial health atleast.

Please work on this... mental health and physical health can only be attained if u have healthy cash flow or runway

JumpyPretzel
JumpyPretzel

I too wondered about this part. May be he took heavy loans, otherwise just 3-4 months of money, is quite surprising. People easily have 1 yrs money in FD/Liquid/Savings.

SillyDonut
SillyDonut
TCS26mo

I have a runaway of 10y in metro and 30y in my village

SleepyCoconut
SleepyCoconut
Google26mo

🫂 good luck! one advise: travel if you can, you’ll not regret it. Do backpacking if you’re tight on budget.

TwirlyPotato
TwirlyPotato

Thank you! I plan to take trains to every part of India I have wanted to explore

WobblyPancake
WobblyPancake
Meta26mo

You were underpaid cause you settled for that job and more over worked overtime for that lower pay. Employers are businessmen, they will want to extract max out of you with as little pay as possible. Its up to you to not let them do that. Its a dog eat dog world my friend. My advice will be look for remote US/SEA opportunities, they pay alot and work load is way less.

TwirlyPotato
TwirlyPotato

Ideally, yes. After my break I'll either find a fully remote role or join a boring big company where sanity will survive even if it's boring.

DancingDonut
DancingDonut

I'm into my 3rd startup, and have been at it for 10 years as well. I completely agree with OP. But don't share his courage.

JumpyPretzel
JumpyPretzel

How much is the usual compensation at this experience?

DancingDonut
DancingDonut

I'm not sure what the usual is. But I'm at 37lpa

ZippyBoba
ZippyBoba

I agree, have followed the hustle culture, have been burnt out, kind of recovered but now I want to build a side project but just don't feel like putting in effort.

Don't know when this will go away.

PeppyHamster
PeppyHamster

I have seen false sense of purpose being forced into the employees of Tech startups. Every little task is made to look like urgent and after a certain time the exhaustion is real. The pay gap is real and it is not going to go away anytime because even if one guy from these tier 1 institutions goes to the top, I have seen them peddling false propaganda about skill of the employees.

WigglyBanana
WigglyBanana

This is a very real observation! Tbh, I think the newer generations are more mission/value driven (given basic needs are met more easily). Founders/startups easily twist this to their advantage and maybe this is bad for our mental health

SwirlyPancake
SwirlyPancake
Jio26mo

Just layed myself off as well ;)

TwirlyPotato
TwirlyPotato

Join the club 🤜🤛

SwirlyPancake
SwirlyPancake
Jio26mo

Heck yeah

FluffyNugget
FluffyNugget
Plivo26mo

I am sure this post resonates with a lot of folks. Thanks for sharing your story OP. Lets hope down the road things do change for the better

TwirlyPotato
TwirlyPotato

Here's hoping and honestly did not expect this to blow up. Hopefully it helps someone earlier in their career

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