MLH fellowship and others stopped for Indians.

Question came up because it’s Independence Day 🇮🇳 A lot of us have had the privilege to be able to go abroad, but ended up choosing not to. For me, it was just believing there’s enough growth here in the coming few decades + friends/family Looking to hear if the reduced brain drain is actually true, and what makes people stay.

Considering low job in tech ecosystem

Indian SDEs on LinkedIn & Twitter are some of the worst engineers you will ever find across the real world. Their typical value lies around: - Cracking a FAANG/MAANG or Product company. - Make an announcement on LinkedIn & Twitter and accumulating followers. - Starting YouTube channel, Topmate links, affiliate marketing channels, and more. - Rant DSA, System Design, Interview resources all day long. - Post daily of their office, their colleagues, candid shots, and barely getting any work done. While this is expected out of early career professionals, it pains to see senior SDEs doing the same shit over and over again. Things don't end here — Everyone talks about creating a revolution. And the revolution is teaching DSA. If you are an experienced SDE and still ranting DSA, it just means that you have barely learnt anything that is of worth any value. You are atmost a "Ticket Engineer". You get assigned a Jira ticket, you bust your ass solving it, and that's it. That's your entire value. Its high time that these "Bhaiya", "Didis", "Bhabhis" stop ranting DSA and System Design over and over, and build something of real value. You would barely see any credible open-source projects coming out of India (but hey, we have some many contributors!), barely any Indie dev project, or anything that captures the attention of the world. Literally every popular SDE you might follow or see over your social media is the same. Their entire community game is a farce and designed to capture gullible college students and shill thousands of rupees out of them. You might be featured on Times Square ($40 ka showoff), but no one would remember you for anything that you built. <Rant Over. Peace>

I love to read about tech and how startups evolved. Have spent a lot of time figuring out how the good product companies in the US got built: Google, FB, Instagram, Snap, Pinterest etc. etc. One thing stands out: A lot of these started out as just projects, and not a real startup. Instagram was just an idea to make photo filtering better. Reddit was just a project around making a cooler internet. They set off as projects, and got some traction before becoming funded startups. Because they had devs in the founding team, who were always doing projects as side hustles. This wasn't the time when SDE salaries were so pumped up, they didn't want to just become good devs, they probably wanted to solve real problems. My takeaway: Maybe Engineers shouldn’t be too incentivised to just code. They should be incentivised to think business. Thats how FB, Google, Insta etc happened as companies. In India, high pay endears engineers to stick to coding, do less business thinking. That’s why we don’t see too many coders posting their side projects on X, Reddit, GV within India. Maybe there just aren’t enough. Have just been thinking about this. Open to thoughts from the community - maybe my view is limited. Would love to hear.

In July 2002, Google did something crazy: They hired a 22 year old computer science student and made him the product manager for Gmail. Gmail engineers were shocked. Gmail was the most important new project at Google. Its target was 10M users. And this guy, who was just out of college, would be the PM? But they were overruled, because Google had a bigger problem: Product managers. Google couldn’t find good PMs. Co-founder Larry Page rejected all the super-experienced PMs from Microsoft, McKinsey, etc. They talked about management and strategy and business. Larry Page hated this. He wanted Google PMs to be technical. Otherwise how would they work with the engineers? That’s when a Google VP, Marissa Mayer, had an idea: If we want PMs with technical skills and don’t care about their experience, why don’t we hire computer science students from college? Thus, the Associate Product Manager (APM) program was born. Brian Rakowski, a 22-year-old CS grad from Stanford, became the first APM. He was put on the Gmail team. Brian was scared. How could he work with super experienced, super senior engineers on a super important project if they didn’t respect him? Marissa gave him the answer: Data She explained to Brian that a PM didn’t give orders to engineers. His job was to be helpful to engineers. If he had an idea, first he should do a small test on 1% of users. If it worked, he should show the test data to the engineers to work on it. Thus, data became the centre of decisions, not seniority or politics. The rest is history. Gmail was a huge success. APM program was a huge success. The first APM, Brian, was a huge success. He’s currently the Vice President of Product Management at Google! Reference : https://www.linkedin.com/posts/shreyans512_in-july-2002-google-did-something-crazy-activity-7192496184895115264-nKXF?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop

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Hey everyone, happy to answer any questions around Data Science/ML/AI and making a career within it A brief about me, I work currently as a Sr. ML Engineer at an Indian unicorn startup I graduated 5+ years ago and have since worked as a Data Scientist / ML Engineer at an ecommerce company and social media company. My designations have changed based on the industry requirements and work too changed based on that. Would love to take questions on what it means to be an ML Engineer, my early learnings from a career in data science, and thoughts on AI. Look forward to all questions :)

Hi everyone I am a fresher and still hasn't got a job i will br graduating this year and I am very scared and depressed due to this i am having intense headache daily due to tension idk what to do and I got in one company 5 months back and now they're saying to take interview again. These things are affecting my mind very much and isk what to do maybe you guys can give some tips I keep applying off campus but I am not getting shortlisted it's very depressing.