Note - I am a product manager too
4 out of 5 product managers will act all high and mighty of themselves, bragging their way as if they run everything going on in the company, flaunting their business degrees and being utterly disrespectful towards their team( dev design qa name it),
Recently started going to office so the attitude I am seeing is very transparent and more visible (more with the higher experience folks)
It makes me wanna leave this hyper inflated role, thinking of I will end up like them scares me, and you have to do is speak out jargons in meetings day in day out and have a English accent of Shashi Tharoor.
Recently my manager told that this is a role where you have to very representable or very visible and act in floor as if you are the busiest person on earth and I seriously some PMs in company doing that, they walk so fast in floor as if they will fall off or would be better to have 4 legs.
What exactly is product management and also how it differs from a Product Manager. 🤨
What exactly is farming and also how it differs from a farmer.
@SmartRing77 but farmer here is the technical team who actually works on stuff
Take PM as the person who just checks in everyday with the potential buyer that what type of crop they want and accordingly they will communicate the farmer to farm the same 🥱😂
Product Managers are required, but not everywhere. And they shouldn't be direspectful, but in fact be respectful with the stakeholders and get the things done without an authority.
It's true that in most of the cases, PMs are limited to something like backlog managers, but in bigger organizations, it will be difficult for teams to interact with each other and someone is required to look after the product, and enabling a seamless communication.
@Dhoni Ofcourse they are required, but they are not the only one required
Everyone in the team is important and just a piece of the puzzle which is working in their own area
They are required. But the point is, we don't need just product managers. Every product manager should have a base of tech experience. Else it's an invalid position.
All product managers without tech background are INVALID
You can't be more right. Wow, thanks for shedding good light.
PRODUCT MANAGERS IN IT WITHOUT TECH BACKGROUND ARE INVALID!.
@Reactor yes! And you will see every other post like does a PM need to have technical background or know coding?
And mostly the answer will be Well! It depends 😂
Nope. Wrong.
Product Managers don’t need a tech background. They can come from any background and bring those strengths -
Customer Service - Customer empathy
Marketing - product marketing, launch, distribution
Data - Strong data Insights
You need to stop spreading false information based on your narrow minded point of view.
What I will agree to - there are rookie product managers hired across India without any experience in anything. This I am against. Product managers need to come with some experience which could be of a different background. Just because you have a shit experience with Pms doesn’t mean the role itself is limited to what your perception is.
After working with Ok to bad to worse PMs, I feel PMs are absolutely essential for product driven companies. They should ideally maintain a coherent Product vision and drive different teams towards that vision. Vision here is not a buzz word. It means concrete things look like - who are your users, what is their intent, what's their problem (s), what is the best way solution, what are real world limitations, what are the tradeoffs, etc.
Probably you are in the wrong company who doesn't really have a defined role for PMs.
And your Manager is not a real PM if he says this to you. Because if he doesn't understand what being a PM is how can he make his team understand that lol.
What is right company?
everyone has that same job description and role
I am talking about the role in general specially in India
@KiraTheGod786 also I am not a fresher and have seen most peoples trick to be visible in this role
As I don’t have that kind of nature when I am working, my manager told how he got through and suggested as a friend
I anyway work like my own way only 😂 and I also know it will be tough for me way ahead but I seriously can’t be like that
Here is an incident that happened to me at my old startup. This literally gave me a wake-up call that shattered my "PM is mini-CEO" idea that all my mentors had told me about.
During a heated product roadmap + prio meeting, the actua...
Although I am not defending his behaviour, you should also take his criticism constructively. When you work so hard o...
It is okay dude. You don't have to worry about this. What is in the past always teaches you something about yourself ...
I know Grapevine is full of young and ambitious people that either planning to get into Product or are already working as a PM. I don’t aim to discourage any of you. Moreover, if you need tips to break into Product I would be happy to he...
Heavily second this. I’m a tech focus generalist who stumbled upon PMing after multiple startup exits. Absolutely bon...
But why did you stick around for 4 years? Was it the money? I'm currently working in product growth success and I'...
I have been contemplating a switch to PM but I am more wary now.
