From the last few days there were talks going on about layoffs in Morgan Stanley. Some 7% of the global staff will be handed over the pink slip in this week. Well... It started happening from today ... Few colleagues from my department were laid, and the reason being "company is trying to survive in the market, company is planning the road ahead by taking such bold steps". When this was announced, my anxiety shot up the next level and I couldn't wait for the meeting to finish. The past few years have not been great for the business worldwide due to which many companies are forced to take such steps. These companies just have been doing a hiring spree from the last 1-2 years that now they are regretting their decisions and letting off their employees. My question is - "If a company hires excessively during the bull market and is forced to lay off few of the employees during the downturn, has the company made an error by not evaluating the headcount or it was just simply the need of the hour"
Please note - I know many people out there who have faced job cuts due to many factors, sincerely requesting people to take this matter very seriously
Really sorry to hear this!
If I can ask, can you share which teams are being laid off?
I interned at MS in the operations team back in college, hope the layoffs haven’t been extra hard on India offices?
Number of layoffs has been relatively smaller compared to global volumes .. mostly IS and Operations have been affected
Ah damn. I completely echo the purpose of your post though. Ultimately my career ended up in the startup world, here I still understand layoffs because future growth is much higher and a lot of planning happens with a mostly tough to achieve positive future in mind
With companies like Morgan Stanley, growth is usually not as outside of control. Sure, the weak global markets affect their business, but from reports it’s evident that laying off employees has become one of the simplest ways to show that you’re a strong “leader” and focused on “better profitability”
It’s too casual, and lacks any empathy because everyone is doing it
What even tech people do in banks? Tech roles in Indian offices of US/Europe banks are really the worst kind of roles you can get into, just in a few years at such a place, you will most likely lose all transferrable skills and continue doing mundane daily work tasks..
Nowadays everything revolves around tech but agreed to your point that some day everyone will be doing daily work tasks like never before
I meant in a tech role at a bank, you're not really working towards building something of value. The whole point of existence of the role is to support actual money making front office.
I agree, this is a serious problem. Rather, what i see is lot of teams are also hiring and have open positions, even these teams have fired people, how does it makes sense to have new open positions and interns while you are expressing hard time retaining current people. This is not clear at all on what basis are they making decision of whom to keep and whom to fire.
@sanyasi99 : This was told to me directly by the Founder of a series B fintech. He was firing slowly at a time basis performance so as not to make news, and hiring people slowly in same roles with less experience sometimes but mostly at far lesser salaries. This is the reason you see openings at companies who have fired. Some companies were forced to pay over the top due to market conditions and to improve their balance sheet they are firing. Even for listed companies the esop costs and employee costs are a huge negative which does not correlate to the revenue the company makes. It is basic cost cutting
From a business perspective, 2020 - 2022 was the time when a lot of people relied heavily on online tools or services. This would have opened up a ton of new opportunities for the businesses, while assuming that it was a behavioral shift (like how it was previously). This led to a lot of people getting hired for those tasks.
But by early 2022, everything was almost normal, and the new exciting opportunity identified earlier, didn't turn out to be of much relevance. On top of that, there were other factors as well.
In most of the cases, we can notice that people were removed from those areas which were not monetarily benefitial for the businesses. Or, the remuneration would be super high for those folks (compared to the revenue driven in by them)
+1
I would say it's kind of both, in 2020-22 the need for online services was higher so some tech. Companies felt the need of onboarding people to cope with the demand. But they should have handled it more carefully, everyone knew that some day things are going to get normal.
I have seen many of the companies/managers hiring just because others are hiring. So to some part it was need of an hour but how the management handled the need was messed up.
Completely agreeing to what you said ... Also adding that laying off tenured staff who have been the most loyal ones and hiring new joiners who mostly just want 6-12 months of experience and move out of the company in search for higher package does not make any sense
Also new hire is preferred over retention which I guess is band company culture. Unfortunately this is being followed everywhere.
Also people play offer letter game to inflate their salary, In most of the cases this hurts the company and the person.
I have come to a conclusion that most of the tech. Is running on bullshit culture. Which needs to be tackled. Otherwise AI is there to take most of the jobs 😂😂😂
From the last few days there were talks going on about layoffs in Morgan Stanley. Some 7% of the global staff will be handed over the pink slip in this week. Well... It started happening from today ... Few colleagues from my department ...
I am really curious why there are so many layoffs in the IT industry. Wherever you see, big companies like CISCO are laying off so many employees. Experts on Grapevine, please explain what is going on.
Being an investor in equity markets, i was aware of the fact that US market will crash as the free money by fed draws back. I obviously was not able to link this up with the funding dry-ness.
I still expect a founder to be aware of th...
Let me explain in detail. There are two parts to it and can be broken down basis PnL 1. Revenues : Sudden jump in...
Do you think instead of laying off employees , its better to cut some % of employees salary which can be given after certain duration?
