GoofyBoba
GoofyBoba

Let's talk money habits.

Hello folks. While I'd like to remain anonymous very much, here's what I can share about myself.

  1. Working in consumer finance.
  2. Love personal finance and helping people out with it.
  3. Have published 10,000+ pieces of financial content in the mainstream media.
  4. Wrote a best-selling book on money management. It was No. 1 on Amazon once upon a time.
  5. Lately been appearing on TV regularly for personal finance discussions.
  6. Saved like crazy through my 20s and 30s, brought two apartments; have an 8-figure net worth mostly thanks to my mutual fund investments. It's not much but it's hard-earned.
  7. My unrealised aspiration is travel and I'm working on it now.

No, I'm not selling anything. No commissions, no referral links, no finfluencing.

Just want to talk, exchange ideas, and learn from you all. Maybe I'll feature you in my next book. :)

Ask me anything.

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GoofyBoba
GoofyBoba

Pardon the grammar and spellers. I just realised there's no way to edit.

PrancingNugget
PrancingNugget

Not an issue...It happens with everyone here

Would love to know about the strategies you employed in your 20s for savings and investments. Let's assume your earnings were between 10-15LPA during that time, and with some potential uncertainties, you managed to save 30% to 40%. How would you plan to utilize that saved money?

GoofyBoba
GoofyBoba

Thanks for the question. Bold of you to assume I was earning 15L in my 20s. 😁

My 20s, which were a while back, were mostly about focussing on savings and making bad investment decisions.

I didn't hit 7-figures until my late 20s. I went over the mark only because of my stock options going 5x over a two-year period. Good times.

Before that, savings did manage to help me buy a home and my car before I turned 30. The stocks helped me be debt-free.

Most of my investments in my 20s were life insurance policies. Needless to say they didn't pay -- even the ones I held to maturity.

I didn't start an RD till I was 25. They helped quite a bit. I moved to mutual funds in my early 30s, and that was the best investment decision I've made.

I'm currently working towards FIRE and I've realised that 300x my monthly income need is enough. I'm halfway there net of my real estate holdings.

If another bull run happens, I may get there under five years.

ZippyMochi
ZippyMochi

Your thoughts on financial inclusion?

GoofyBoba
GoofyBoba

People hate Aadhaar, and they're probably going to hate me for saying this, but it's contributed enormously to finclusion. It wouldn't have been possible without Aadhaar. Which is not to say people shouldn't be suspicious of this government's attempts to surveil the citizenry in various ways.

FloatingWaffle
FloatingWaffle

Why do we hate aadhar? We don't? Because of black money?? That's cool then...
Though life is not straightforward and govt isn't saint & people with black money may not necessarily be too wrong/bad, it's still good that govt aka elected reps get more power than mafia

BouncyBurrito
BouncyBurrito

How do you decide your monthly expenditure and extrapolate that for FIRE? You mentioned 300xmonthly expense is all that you need.
What about kids education? Critical care etc

GoofyBoba
GoofyBoba

No kids. I have health insurance. No major liabilities.

There's no way to confidently say any number is good enough. Inflation is an absolute bastard. But the important thing is to spend at a rate lower than it grows at.

FIRE is incumbent on frugal living and allowing your funds to compound in the markets. So if I get there, I intend to go slow the first few years. That will give the money time to grow some more. So 300x could potentially become 600x in 5-6 years if I do this right.

My math says 300x is good enough. I would love to do 500x. But it's not easy and incumbent on several things going right.

DizzyLlama
DizzyLlama
Atlys19mo

Apologies, I am not smart here. May I know what FIRE is? Also, how did you learn about which MFs to invest etc?

SparklyNoodle
SparklyNoodle

Real Id se aa financewithsharan

GoofyBoba
GoofyBoba

LMAO I'm a corporate, not a finfluencer, and I have nothing to sell.

SnoozyBurrito
SnoozyBurrito

NGL my 1st thought as well

DerpyPotato
DerpyPotato

@mangoman would you change the amount of savings you did in your 20s and 30s?

Did it in any way mean you had lesser fun? I know it’s tough to say that in retrospect, but curious.

GoofyBoba
GoofyBoba

Probably not. My early years were about living paycheque to paycheque. I did try to work on income expansion with limited success.

Adsense for publishers was a huge thing back then, just as Twitter and Youtube payouts are now. I built a few networks that gave me additional monthly income.

My preferred investments were life insurance, which sucked.

I wouldn't change the percentage I saved, because I was maxed out, but I would like to change how I invested. I would put my money in an ELSS and forget about it.

GoofyBoba
GoofyBoba

To answer the second part, yes, I had lesser fun for sure. I focussed on being frugal. Plenty of my friends blew their money on foreign trips. I waited for my time.

I don't come from money. But today I have everything I need. My needs are few but wants are many.

I can buy any gadget or vehicle I want. But it's important for me to continue being frugal.

I still drive my 2011 hatchback for family needs, and ride my bike to work.

BouncyBurrito
BouncyBurrito

Was real estate investment or for consumption? Have you calculated if you were to put that money in MFs would you have made more?

Lastly, What type of real estate ?

GoofyBoba
GoofyBoba

For consumption.

Anybody who isn't rolling in money should not invest in real estate.

Institutional data says the price appreciation is down to 0% per annum. Add 3% rental yield. Then minus loan interest, taxes, and maintenance. You get negative returns.

I had the bad luck to own property through a long period of very poor returns. When I finally sold it, the net returns were comparable to a savings account.

Since it's for consumption, I don't want to be sad about the returns. The truth is the MFs would have certainly given better returns. But I had a home in which I made a ton of memories with my family and friends. And that's priceless.

GoofyBoba
GoofyBoba

Missed answering this: apartments.

SparklyNarwhal
SparklyNarwhal

If you were in your 20's right now, what would you do to best invest and save money?

GoofyBoba
GoofyBoba

I would work on three things parallelly. First, create an emergency fund. I think 2-4 lakh would have been enough in my 20s. Second, invest in mutual fund SIPs. Third, buy health insurance to stop my money from evaporating in a crisis.

SparklyNarwhal
SparklyNarwhal

Thank you very much!

SquishyPanda
SquishyPanda
Juspay19mo

So I do earn 100k per month and spend around 40k How and what do I invest in considering that I'm still 22 and do not have any loans or EMIs and not planning to get one soon.

GoofyBoba
GoofyBoba

Build assets. Mutual funds are a good starting point. It's a whole wide world out there. Equity, debt, gold, index etc. Some are riskier than others. Some are more rewarding than others. The important thing is to buy low, sit tight, not panic, and sell high. Three to five years of SIPs give you a near 100% of positive returns. Before you do this, set your goals.

GoofyBoba
GoofyBoba

100% chance* of positive returns

SillyMochi
SillyMochi

@mangoman I am in my late 30s. Married with a 12 year old son. 5 years ago left my job, sold out everything including Residence and invested all my money in business. Business doing well now. Living in an expensive Metro now only because of my son's education. Do you think it's wise not to own a house and live in a rented apartment till retirement. Any personal expense means money had to be withdrawn from business. 8 figure NW, so it's a matter of choice.

FloatingTaco
FloatingTaco

What business is it? If you're comfortable telling that?

SillyMochi
SillyMochi

Let's just say I am in the Stock market.

FuzzyMuffin
FuzzyMuffin

So i earn around(26 male - single) 1,10,000 in hand + 6k & 6k EPF + 4.2k NPS -- SIP of 22k -- RD of 8k -- Rent of 13k -- credit card & expanse of 25 k — electric bike loan 7k — rest is kept in FD or savings account as emergency fund

Parents are self sufficient & still working

I am thinking of buying house in pune in next few years, & also marriage

Anything I should do differently in above?

GoofyBoba
GoofyBoba

You're saving and investing 40% of your take-home. That is impressive. You're off to a good start.

For your home purchase, you may have to direct more money to an RD. You'll need something like 30-40% of your property price for down-payment, registration, stamp duty, furnishing etc. A loan will cover the rest.

Before the loan, keep an eye on your credit score. Ensure it's always over 800. (Basically, never be late with any payments.) That will give you the best home loan deals.

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