Hey guys, Wanted to know your opinions and if someone has walked similar path before. I am in infrastructure engineering domain, want to transition into core backend with full stack. I have roamed around abroad and found really great quality of life -
I like these concepts and want to explore living abroad, learning cultures, traditions and people.
I was thinking of getting into a Europe based company(understand the pay would be less but I get to roam EU countries with better work life balance) for my backend role and leave my current job to prepare for it as my entire day is sucked off by this current high paying job and it's not fun anymore
Thoughts?
Tldr - Not happy with my current life sucking role at startup. Have experienced better life abroad as a tourist. Want to switch to a job abroad and experience customs, traditions, people, culture, languages!
Personal learning. Places that seem great as a tourist may not be epic to actually live in
Europe is epitome of quality life, they know life isn't about working and there laws reflect that clearly. The french revolution was about the rights of people. That being said, it comes with downsides. The socialist democracies have been surviving so far thanks to historical wealth, tourism, sovereign fund and low population, but there GDP has been stagnant or declining for last two decades. They are always the worst to get hit by global recession and events. Xenophobia is also running rampant due to clashes b/w refugees.
If you are that confident about securing an EU job, i think you would be capable of securing remote US jobs which pay alot and have slightly better work culture than India. Be the funnel, bring that sweet dollars and spend it on local bars.
Move man, explore. Don't listen to these petty people who wanna just remain here in toxic culture with no personal life. Explore the world, and you can come back anytime you want. Here the toxicity will not vanish in the next 10-20 years which is the prime of your life. Hence better move
Thank you for saying this. Every time, some one wants to move out of India, people come out with reasons why not to. But they won’t understand the problems we face in India are far bigger and not something you can solve. Same reasons like help isn’t there, climate is bad, taxes are high 😑
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taking up job in EU?.. you make it sound like it is in uttar pradesh..
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Why? Everything worthwhile in life is difficult to get, doesn't mean you can't get it! Why not be hopeful of the future? It's what we live for, right?
I don’t think so Europe is going to fix the excitement part. Europe is too chill. They have had a good run economically. Now the offsprings are enjoying luxury. There is no passion/rush to do anything. Everyone is content. It’s a good place for vacation, to escape and go chill on a Motor boat in Lake Como.
You might not be excited right now but India has opportunities. Economy has to grow. If not India, there are many other countries that are pushing.
But I don’t think so Europe is going to get you excited if not make it worse.
Plus if you have been following Geo politics, you’d know that Europe is in a very bad state.
My POV comes from - Interest in Geo politics, cousin is a Senior Associate @ Allen and Ovary London, Best friend is Manager @ Ritz Carlton Lisbon, some peers in tech spread in different parts of EU.
I don’t agree to the excitement part. There’s a lot one can do in Europe for fun - music events and festivals especially a place where international artists perform regularly, treks, dating scene is amazing, unlike in our metro cities where people just go to malls and pubs. Then there are fitness activities - biking, trekking, scuba diving on shores on Spain and Italy. And also artistic events like plays, operas. It’s never ending. The only thing I would say is you will spend a lot as there are lot of activities to do
I meant excitement in terms of work.
My friend is doing PhD in Germany. Stellar research profile. But he told he is going to return to India. He feels isolated, people do discriminate but it's well hidden.
Not to bum you out friend, but almost every country doesn't welcome outsiders out of will unless they have a shortage of labour. The key word here is LABOUR. You go, work to make their economy better. Even then, they try to make the entry/citizenship process as complicated and difficult. For third world and sanctioned countries, even more difficult. They do this knowing that we are desperate to get out of our country, so most of us will adjust with however we are treated. All the ego we have here will be zero there. For the powerful there, their own citizens might be being a pain in the ass to work with. Indians will readily do those works and infact feel proud abt it that it all feels like a win win on both sides.
1 example for the adjustint part - mumbai US visa office doesn't have a waiting area bro. People stand thru rains for 12 hours and more. In short - indians are treated more like use and throw. You won't feel welcome. BUT the upside is u get a better QoL like you say. So it's upto u to decide which battle u wanna fight.
Enquire around and be sure why u take a decision. Later u will know how to live with the decision or when to call it quits. Every country will be best behavior for tourists (india is an exception there again 😐) but when u r moving to a country to share their resources and stay with them, the equation is different. All the best!
Totally makes sense. I don't disagree at all! I will be thinking this through from all angles and figuring out what all challenges I might face and if that's something I am willing to take up. Thanks for this!
bartan, jhaadu aur pocha khud karna padega!
That’s a good thing unlike exploiting cheap labour in India
Of course there is exploitation but it is everywhere( formal or informal sector) but you also have to look at the brighter side! They have jobs, their kids are getting to go to school and they get to earn an honest living.
Imagine if all the informal sector wants to do the formal jobs, do we have those jobs?
How to find jobs in europe? I guess linkedIn jobs is one way. Do you know any hacks?
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