SparklyCupcake
SparklyCupcake

Unmasking ESOP wealth!

Truths about ESOP 101

After working in multiple fast growth startup’s and having been part of multiple buybacks as well as being in the startup ecosystem for a decade I want to put to bear my pov about creating wealth through ESOP.

Like any other randomised event, ESOP also follows Pareto principle which means a very small number of people within the company ever make sizable wealth that they elevate to the top 0.1% of the country.

The Pareto also applies with companies; significantly small minority of companies in India have employee friendly policies which enables an employee to create wealth.

Most startup’s have dark patterns within their esop policy which either locks you in for insufferable durations or forces you to pay exorbitant taxes to gain the right to exercise your esops when you are leaving the company.

Survivorship bias plays a huge role in enabling the narrative that esop is a great wealth generating tool leading to rude awakening for an employee after they join a company.

This doesn’t mean you can’t make wealth, it just means don’t get carried away by narratives and take preventable errors in your career.

Always talk to multiple people in startup’s and ask relevant questions to understand esop policies better.

Like everything else optimising only for esop for wealth creation will mostly not result in it.

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FluffyNugget
FluffyNugget
Plivo10mo

If I leave company and I want to exercise my esops i.e. I want to retain them. Then I’ll have to pay as much as they cost or how is it? Also if there is a buyback event and I no longer work there - will I get to know and be able to sell them?

SleepyMarshmallow
SleepyMarshmallow

ESOPs are always granted at some strike price, once they get vested you can exercise the ESOPs i.e. buy the shares at earlier agreed strike price + you also have to pay some taxes which would be on your total gain i.e. (current_share_price - striker_price)total_units. So your total exercise cost (amount to be paid) would be strike_pricetotal_units + taxes

FluffyNugget
FluffyNugget
Plivo10mo

Ok and this gain or current share price is again determined by company regularly or how is it?
Any idea if I do exercise, can I sell them later in case of buyback? (IPO or other scenarios I think I can)

ZestyPenguin
ZestyPenguin
Intel10mo

Please tag or state that this is applicable only for startups and not public companies ...

DancingHamster
DancingHamster

Public companies would be having RSUs right, instead of ESOPs.

ZestyPenguin
ZestyPenguin
Intel10mo

No they have rsu s plus ESOP s where employees can buy stocks at a discount of 15-20% these are in addition to RSUs which are part of compensation

JazzyBiscuit
JazzyBiscuit

If you exercise the option, you are liable to pay taxes on such gains.. thats why most people do it only in case of buybacks..

FloatingBagel
FloatingBagel
6sense10mo

Recently I came across this- https://www.hiive.com/

You can use this to trade your ESOPs, and you don't have to wait for IPO or ESOP buyback to liquidate your shares.

I haven't used this yet, so I don't know how legit this is.

MagicalMarshmallow
MagicalMarshmallow

Guys Chill now Government Has Mandate to Make Esops in Dmat Account even for Unlisted Cos no Bad practices in ESOPs now

SparklyCupcake
SparklyCupcake
GoofyBoba
GoofyBoba

This is such a good post. I’m stuck in “dark pattern” bullshit myself. I’m now approaching a decade without a single rupee being paid from my vested options.

CosmicMochi
CosmicMochi

Anyone made any stock option bonanza gains?

QuirkyMarshmallow
QuirkyMarshmallow

Do ESOPs dilute at the same pace for all. If you are one of the first 10 employees and awarded 1% and the founders each have 20%, after each fund raise do the proportion of dilution of employee and founders same or founders can fu*ck around in this without employee knowledge

SqueakyTaco
SqueakyTaco

Everyone's esop do dilute

QuirkyQuokka
QuirkyQuokka

Plus esops are super risky. For your esops vested today to go 10x you'll have to wait for 4-10 years.

If you plan around taking this waiting period your esops might end up going in any of the many directions.

DizzyLlama
DizzyLlama
Atlys10mo

It's always risky, but making wealth is a risky business. You gotta bet and trust it would grow

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