News Discussion10mo
by ZestyQuokkaConsultant
SquishyQuokka
Why do Indians hate India?
Whenever I read foreign media outlets, India is the new Asian Tiger that will outpace most emerging economies in growth. But Indian media and Indian people act like India is the worst place to be.
The dichotomy is extremely confusing. Why is it that foreign media coverage on our economy is more favourable than our own hopes and aspirations from this country?
PS: I am really big on Indian Exceptionalism, the belief that India's economic development and trajectory are unique or exceptional compared to other nations, driven by our large and diverse population, thriving middle class, our entrepreneurial spirit, and the emphasis on technology and innovation.
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WobblyBanana
Student12mo
Reservation hta do, baki sab badhiya hai
GoofyBoba
Stealth12mo
Yeh dekho. Just proving what I just said. Reservation hata do. But never get rid of the socio-economic conditions that lead to reservations.
SquishyNugget
Deloitte12mo
Can we remove socio-economic conditions to remove crime? Crime will always happen, discrimination will always happen. We have laws against both (including caste based discrimination). That doesn’t mean crime stops magically.
Caste-based reservations is also caste-based discrimination.
ZestyQuokka
Stealth12mo
Lack of opportunities, too much competition and no support from government (unless you know someone who knows someone)
It is just not India, you speak with natives of other countries they will not paint rosy pictures. Happiest country Finland has such gloom in population and they accept it
WigglyTaco
LeadSquared12mo
Well, because I donate 30% of my salary every month to the government in direct taxes while living in an area with scarce water supply, roads that take 30mins for 5km, will never use government schools, might never use government hospitals, with terrible AQI, not to forget that a middle class lives are basically “anonymous infinite treasury tap” for the government. I love India, but the upside is not convincing enough if I switch off my “patriot button” for a minute.
WigglyTaco
LeadSquared12mo
Not to forget another ~10% average in indirect taxes.
SnoozyUnicorn
Tesco12mo
Donation is the operative word here. People conflate that with "contribution" to the economy. The tax payers in the country are bled to death in this country without getting anything back.
GroovyBoba
People don't hate the economic development. They hate the fact that it doesn't translate to an increase in HDI. The general conditions in the country are still shit. That's why we see tons of rich people leave the country even if they are heavily invested in the Indian market
SquishyQuokka
Gojek12mo
@Elon_Musk True. This is the realest thing ever. It is seldom translating into better life.
ZestySushi
Zomato12mo
Look there is always an inefficiency in the utilisation of people's tax money. China being a dictatorship controlled corruption with a single law, we being democratic cannot possibly, given corrupt people thrive. So better to assume that we have less than 50% efficiency of proper utilisation of the entire GDP of our country. That can be seen in infrastructure development, though not as expected. Even with extreme future economic development, we may only see 30-45% effect on HDI.
GoofyBoba
Stealth12mo
This is going to come across as a bit strong.
Exceptionalism and diversity are poles apart. You can cherish one only at the expense of the other.
The idea that the west likes us and Indian media doesn’t has no basis in reality. I can only imagine this sort of a view developing in a right wing echo chamber.
The vast majority on this platform are from upper caste, economically sound backgrounds. Their problems are not the problems of the hundreds of millions whose entire lives are lived in the sort of dystopia we can only imagine.
SquishyHamster
Google12mo
Do you have the stats to prove that the majority here are upper caste?
Aren't you the ones who already got uplifted but still taking the reservation benefits for your kids at the expense of the poorest of your own community???
In fact, the rich and upper middle class of your community is robbing the poor section of your community only.
Act then preach.
GoofyBoba
Stealth12mo
I’m not surprised by how uninformed this response is, which only demonstrates what I’m saying. It would require a 10-point response which I don’t have time for.
FWIW, I’m GC but going to spend the rest of my life calling out this sort of uninformed behaviour.
CosmicBiscuit
Deloitte12mo
Nepotism, red tapism, superiority complex of every region ( tired of listening to North vs south debate) too much religious propaganda, chalta hai attitude, toxic work culture, lack of respect for personal space, too much emotional drama instead of logical thinking, biased media, headache when dealing with government officials/police/school administration/house help, biased laws for men, lower salaries as compared to the effort spent on earning a degree, absence of proper animal rights etc.
But somehow it is my home and I love ots imperfections. Or maybe it's chalta hai for me as well now!
SparklyLlama
Zepto12mo
People on this platform has no idea how the real world works, even if some of you came up from nothing, it takes very less to forget how it used to be, and how the 95% people in this country live. Day to day, somehow fighting corruption, religion politics, hate crimes, less opportunities.
Just open the comment section of any app, people are such incels in this country they cant tolerate a woman smiling and existing. If a person from a lower caste shares something on their timeline, a swarm of upper caste edgy bois will post slurs and those comments will have upwards of 10k likes.
This is the state of the country, mindless zombies, praising politicians, no relief for the middle class, broken roads, broken infrastructure, the list goes on and on.
If you are happy living on 5kg ration, like 82cr people live, nobody will standup to do anything.
Soon they will take away your freedom, aur tum baith ke hilaate rehna ghar mei politicians ki tasveer laga kar.
Jai shree ram!
FuzzyMarshmallow
Stealth12mo
Hahahaha touche
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